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11-09-2002, 02:05 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

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Now who's freaking out?

Now go away.
<hr /></blockquote>I'm going to laugh really hard when your new motor has problems. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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BTW, what engine builders have been represented at the major LS1 shooouts in the last year? ARE, MTI, SAM, FMS, Thunder ... who is conspicuosly absent?
<hr /></blockquote>MMS is always well represented at the West Coast shootouts. Put together something that is not 1800 miles away from us and you'll get a decent turnout.

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I think TTR has a lot more credibility here than Home Fries does. LOL
<hr /></blockquote>I'm highly respected by all those that have lost to my cars at races around Southern California. Put together an event that is within 800 miles of me and I'll come earn your respect. TTR is a nice guy but he doesn't know much about building or racing FBodies. He just spends money and buys parts.

I on the other hand have built and raced several quick turbo, blown, juiced, and NA fbodies. I've developed a lot of my own parts (including a reverse flow EWP, intercooler systems, air intakes, weight reduction parts, fuel, exhaust, and n2o systems). I've put together fast engines and tuned them. I'm always the one to try new parts out first and tell people if they work or not. I called BS on the Incon thing and now there are like 40 guys who are out $5000 because they didn't listen to me. Maybe I'm biased but I think I've provided more tech content to these Internet boards than 95% of the other guys on here, including you.

RE: MMS they're booked a few weeks out so I don't think my LS1TECH.COM shenanigans are negatively effecting them at all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

PS. I think I hold the LS1TECH records for fastest 346ci NA A4 @ 127, quickest stock longblock (including stock manifolds) @ 11.1@122, quickest procharged FBody @ 10.81@129, highest dynoing stock crank hydrolic cam NA car @ 496rwhp, best 4L60E 60' using a non yank/pi converter @ 1.46 and the highest mileage stock LT1 car @ 186,000 miles. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Probably a lot more but my memory isn't what it used to be. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

PPS. That crank evaculation thing you did that you think is so hot, well I was one of the first in the Internet community to try that back in the middle of 1997. I did back to back testing with an air pump, electric vacuum pump, and header scavenger system in my '93 LT1 and decided none of them were worth any power in a 400rwhp car with std tension oil rings. Also one of the first to buy an EWP water pump from JP in ~97/98, first to try 96# injectors on an LT1 (what a hassle!), and my biggest ever claim to fame is that I beat Chris Marsh's LT1 in to the 10s.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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11-09-2002, 05:12 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Terry Burger:
I'm going to laugh really hard when your new motor has problems. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<hr /></blockquote>not as much as everyone laughs at MMS built motors

<blockquote>quote:<hr />MMS is always well represented at the West Coast shootouts. Put together something that is not 1800 miles away from us and you'll get a decent turnout.
<hr /></blockquote> <blockquote>quote:<hr />I'm highly respected by all those that have lost to my cars at races around Southern California. Put together an event that is within 800 miles of me and I'll come earn your respect. TTR is a nice guy but he doesn't know much about building or racing FBodies. He just spends money and buys parts.
<hr /></blockquote>that is pretty lame to ask for a shootout in your backyard .... we had several people travel thousands of miles to come to the events, hell I drove 9 hrs to Bowling Green. Well I take that back ... I guess what you are tryin to say is MMS sells locally and not nationally.

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RE: MMS they're booked a few weeks out so I don't think my LS1TECH.COM shenanigans are negatively effecting them at all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<hr /></blockquote>why then are you the only representative I know about on this board?

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PPS. That crank evaculation thing you did that you think is so hot, well I was one of the first in the Internet community to try that back in the middle of 1997. <hr /></blockquote>who me? what are you talking about? I guess you have some many lies out there that it is hard for you to keep track of them all. It doesn't matter, you have no credability here other than as the number 1 smack talking MMS troll.

11-09-2002, 05:31 PM

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that is pretty lame to ask for a shootout in your backyard .... we had several people travel thousands of miles to come to the events, hell I drove 9 hrs to Bowling Green. Well I take that back ... I guess what you are tryin to say is MMS sells locally and not nationally.
<hr /></blockquote>There were two "big" events, BG and The Thunder Shootout. Both were ~1800 miles away from me. Get something going ~800 miles away and I'll happily drive 10-11 hours to race.

I took 2nd place at our "North vs. South" event here earlier this year. Lost in the finals to Janzter. Like the Thunder event it was a full interior only affair. There were a handful of ARE/MTI cars there running poorly if memory serves. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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who me? what are you talking about? I guess you have some many lies out there that it is hard for you to keep track of them all. It doesn't matter, you have no credability here other than as the number 1 smack talking MMS troll.
<hr /></blockquote>I think you meant credibility right?

Maybe I have you mixed up with Tim. I have a hard time keeping track of all the high 11 second cars now and days. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Anyway how does it feel to run significantly slower than the #1 smack talking troll? Does it hurt your ego? Make you wanna cry? Let's put together the next event a little closer to the West Coast so I can get in on the action. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

11-10-2002, 12:06 AM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Terry Burger:
Tom has anyone told you you're a little bit two faced? You were friendly when you were out here and had the chance to say things in front of me, now you're acting like a dick over the net. I don't give a **** what you want to say about my engine. Go ahead and pour your guts on it. It's just one of 1,000 engines to me. I'm going to run it hard until it blows up and/or isn't fast enough anymore, then I'll buy another one. I just happen to think its funny all the things you "know" are wrong with it yet it puts down great numbers and has been running reliably for me. It makes me wonder if you know what you're talking about. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Now who's freaking out? <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

Now go away.

11-10-2002, 07:22 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

TTR, you are a class act, 'nuff said!!!!

11-10-2002, 07:31 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Terry Bugger:
I think I hold the LS1TECH records for fastest 346ci NA A4 @ 127<hr /></blockquote>For some reason, I REALLY can't see a 346ci NA A4 go 127 mph. What was the ET on that run Mr. Bugger?

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11-10-2002, 08:11 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Terry Burger:
Maybe I have you mixed up with Tim. I have a hard time keeping track of all the high 11 second cars now and days. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<hr /></blockquote>don't you mean "now a days"? Your spell check works well but your grammer needs work. If you are gonna put someone down for spelling then make sure you don't become the one looking like the idiot.

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Anyway how does it feel to run significantly slower than the #1 smack talking troll? Does it hurt your ego? Make you wanna cry?
<hr /></blockquote>make me wanna cry? ROTFLMAO, Unlike you Shake and Fries, I don't have my ego and self worth tied up in my car. To be honest, I am significantly slower than most big cubed cars out there, even when they say they have stock displacement.

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Let's put together the next event a little closer to the West Coast so I can get in on the action. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>nice use of a repetitive excuse ... well if you can't afford to make the trip then send some other MMS representative. Or are they with the other non-racers at LS1.com?

Funny that you started a trash thread like this when you have nothing to back it up but lies and lame excuses. Cheers to you Mr. Burger. LOL

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11-10-2002, 08:15 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

If it was common it wouldn't be a record would it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ET was 10.87, 60' 1.56 (slippery track).

I went 10.88@125.5 with the converter unlocked that day, 10.87@127.1 with it locked @95 mph. A month before I ran 10.99@123.5 (unlocked). I removed ~150#, put on 3" extensions, put in race gas, and did !ps to get the car to 10.87@127.

First time out with the 396 I only took two passes and ran 10.99@120 (TP4400 wayyy too loose and tranny wouldn't shift). Added around 100# back on to the car (including ps), rebuilt the tranny, switched to a smaller TCI stall, and ran 6.72@101 in the 1/8th. Haven't been to the track for about a month.

11-10-2002, 08:21 PM

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Funny that you started a trash thread like this when you have nothing to back it up but lies and lame excuses. Cheers to you Mr. Burger. LOL
<hr /></blockquote>I've owned three 346ci LS1 cars that are quicker/faster than your car Java. If ANYONE needs to back their big mouth up its YOU! What do you have to say about that?

11-10-2002, 08:43 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

Wonder how many of your three LS1's were truly 346 CID or without the help of something else. Last thing I remember is you were struggling for the 11's and then bam!! you are in the stratosphere. LOL, go peddle your lies somewhere else, no one believes them here.

you are tired old man, one lame excuse and/or statement after another .. the typical Terry HamBurger Helper come back, "how fast are you?" I am done with you, waste of time dealing with a child. Later!!!

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

Anyone who had the pleasure of meeting TTR and his lovely wife came away the better person for it. Tom and Bev were great and I look forward to seeing them in the near future.

11-10-2002, 08:59 PM

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Re: How did old man Joe run?

Taking the easy way out poser? No matter what you say and how smooth you think you are, the vast majority of us that really race these cars think you’re a wanna-be racer with a slow car. Nothing you type can change that. If you want some respect run some decent times and earn it!

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Last thing I remember is you were struggling for the 11's and then bam!! you are in the stratosphere. LOL, go peddle your lies somewhere else, no one believes them here.
<hr /></blockquote>Hey old man, sounds to me like you don't know much about my car. I ran 11s first time out with the heads/cam at LACR (3800' DA). Just to refresh your memory my bests with the 2001 Z28/346 were 12.82 (stock engine), 11.97, 11.73, 11.61, 11.36, 11.14, 11.02, 10.99, culminating in a 10.87.

I spent a lot of time in the 11.36 range until I swapped cams and did a little suspension work.

PS. I'm 25 and probably make more money than you. It's a sad life you lead isn't it? Next time you're driving your turd around be sure to wonder how it would feel to be as quick as I am with less cash in the car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

11-10-2002, 09:09 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
Anyone who had the pleasure of meeting TTR and his lovely wife came away the better person for it. Tom and Bev were great and I look forward to seeing them in the near future.<hr /></blockquote>Thank you John, It was a great pleasure meeting you also. I called Bev over to read your reply and she said AAHHHH thats aweful nice of him. We look forward to the next shootout also.

Tom and Bev <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

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