Can I safely cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's with my stock motor?
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Re: Can I safely cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's with my stock motor?
Yeah, I was thinking about going with the 28" x 9" x 15", which is a little shorter than the 10.5" version.
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You will damage your pushrods
thats for sure
becareful
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thats for sure
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and good luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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4.30's and 28x9 ET Drags.
I tried to tell you months ago when you were
shopping for parts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Of coarse I'll be stepping down to a 4.10
when the nitrous goes on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I tried to tell you months ago when you were
shopping for parts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Of coarse I'll be stepping down to a 4.10
when the nitrous goes on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Hee hee...that's all right, Sean. I'll just stick to the 10.5" ET Drags. I know they're tall enough! I wouldn't replace these 4.56's for the world!
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4.56's are fun arent they? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Well, they're fun on my 6-speed, I can only imagine on an automatic! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 01-Z:
<strong>
Of coarse I'll be stepping down to a 4.10
when the nitrous goes on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is the exact reason I went with 4.11's the first time around <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
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Of coarse I'll be stepping down to a 4.10
when the nitrous goes on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is the exact reason I went with 4.11's the first time around <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
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Re: Can I safely cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's with my stock motor?
Stock motor starts make funny noises at about 6650 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> With the UT-4600 in my car, it buzzed the 6600 rev limiter MANY times.
I guess I should check my pushrods.. never have <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I guess I should check my pushrods.. never have <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: Can I safely cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's with my stock motor?
John, so did you ever experience any unusual noises or loss of power after tagging your 6600-RPM limiter?
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Re: Can I safely cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's with my stock motor?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Launch:
<strong> I set my shifts at 6500 when it was stock internal and later on i found a bit of valvespring stuck to the sump plug magnet. Just a tiny bit off the edge of the spring. Change out your springs at least. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you'll read the title of the thread, it says "...cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's..." I'm not changing my shift RPM at all. And I can't replace my valvesprings, or it would put me out of contention for the Bolt-On Shootout in Bowling Green on May 31. If I'm gonna replace my springs, you can bet I'm throwing a cam in there, anyway. That'll have to come later.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>you will LOVE the 4.56 gears and 28x9x15 (rememeber i suggested that a while back) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> you will cross the traps at around what you said. you will love the hook! also on a smaller wheel you arent getting a full 10.5" anyways. the sidewall is what the MN6 cars need anyways. 9" wide is plenty if you have that 27.3" tall drag. good luck and you will have success. i loved mine when i had a 6 speed car! <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
also 4.56 are just plain old mean arent they, esp on the highway in 4th gear-5th gear!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure I'll love the 9"-wide ET Drags, but I want to make sure it's safe to cross the traps at that high of an RPM. 4.56's do rock in 4th-5th gear on the highway. 5th gear pulls like a regular gear now. It's great. I can even pass people with ease in 6th gear. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VipZ28:
<strong>Valve Float, Pushrods bent, Springs broke, and no point in turning that high because the stock cam falls off at 5800 anyways. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> My rev limiter is at 6200 for a reason.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You need to read the thread title too, sir. And, in general, pay attention to what is going on in this thread. I'm not touching the shift RPM. The only time my car will see revs that high will be at the end of the ¼-mile in 4th gear if I go with the shorter tire.
<strong> I set my shifts at 6500 when it was stock internal and later on i found a bit of valvespring stuck to the sump plug magnet. Just a tiny bit off the edge of the spring. Change out your springs at least. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you'll read the title of the thread, it says "...cross the traps at 6500-6600 RPM's..." I'm not changing my shift RPM at all. And I can't replace my valvesprings, or it would put me out of contention for the Bolt-On Shootout in Bowling Green on May 31. If I'm gonna replace my springs, you can bet I'm throwing a cam in there, anyway. That'll have to come later.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>you will LOVE the 4.56 gears and 28x9x15 (rememeber i suggested that a while back) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> you will cross the traps at around what you said. you will love the hook! also on a smaller wheel you arent getting a full 10.5" anyways. the sidewall is what the MN6 cars need anyways. 9" wide is plenty if you have that 27.3" tall drag. good luck and you will have success. i loved mine when i had a 6 speed car! <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
also 4.56 are just plain old mean arent they, esp on the highway in 4th gear-5th gear!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure I'll love the 9"-wide ET Drags, but I want to make sure it's safe to cross the traps at that high of an RPM. 4.56's do rock in 4th-5th gear on the highway. 5th gear pulls like a regular gear now. It's great. I can even pass people with ease in 6th gear. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VipZ28:
<strong>Valve Float, Pushrods bent, Springs broke, and no point in turning that high because the stock cam falls off at 5800 anyways. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> My rev limiter is at 6200 for a reason.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You need to read the thread title too, sir. And, in general, pay attention to what is going on in this thread. I'm not touching the shift RPM. The only time my car will see revs that high will be at the end of the ¼-mile in 4th gear if I go with the shorter tire.
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Allen,
You think that the 4.56's gears rock. You should try 5.13's. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
Good luck to ya on your quest for the bolt on record. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
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You think that the 4.56's gears rock. You should try 5.13's. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
Good luck to ya on your quest for the bolt on record. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Launch:
<strong> sorry man didnt realise you were going for stock internal shootout. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
yeah if your only going to see 6600 at the end of the track i reckon it'll be cool. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's all good, my friend. Thanks for your input.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Coach 02 M6 Z/28:
<strong>Allen,
You think that the 4.56's gears rock. You should try 5.13's. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
Good luck to ya on your quest for the bolt on record. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
Coach </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">5.13's ----> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I remember when I used to think going with 4.30's was insane! Funny how things change.
Thanks for the kind words, and good luck on your quest for 10's N/A.
<strong> sorry man didnt realise you were going for stock internal shootout. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
yeah if your only going to see 6600 at the end of the track i reckon it'll be cool. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's all good, my friend. Thanks for your input.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Coach 02 M6 Z/28:
<strong>Allen,
You think that the 4.56's gears rock. You should try 5.13's. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
Good luck to ya on your quest for the bolt on record. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
Coach </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">5.13's ----> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I remember when I used to think going with 4.30's was insane! Funny how things change.
Thanks for the kind words, and good luck on your quest for 10's N/A.
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you will LOVE the 4.56 gears and 28x9x15 (rememeber i suggested that a while back) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> you will cross the traps at around what you said. you will love the hook! also on a smaller wheel you arent getting a full 10.5" anyways. the sidewall is what the MN6 cars need anyways. 9" wide is plenty if you have that 27.3" tall drag. good luck and you will have success. i loved mine when i had a 6 speed car! <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
also 4.56 are just plain old mean arent they, esp on the highway in 4th gear-5th gear!
also 4.56 are just plain old mean arent they, esp on the highway in 4th gear-5th gear!
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong> And what would the dangers be (mechanically) of revving it that high?
TIA. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Valve Float, Pushrods bent, Springs broke, and no point in turning that high because the stock cam falls off at 5800 anyways. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> My rev limiter is at 6200 for a reason.
<strong> And what would the dangers be (mechanically) of revving it that high?
TIA. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Valve Float, Pushrods bent, Springs broke, and no point in turning that high because the stock cam falls off at 5800 anyways. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> My rev limiter is at 6200 for a reason.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Launch:
<strong> I set my shifts at 6500 when it was stock internal and later on i found a bit of valvespring stuck to the sump plug magnet. Just a tiny bit off the edge of the spring. Change out your springs at least. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">uhhh, isn't this beyond the "bolt-on" classification?
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Then all these guys would never be able to say "Never had a valve cover off."
<strong> I set my shifts at 6500 when it was stock internal and later on i found a bit of valvespring stuck to the sump plug magnet. Just a tiny bit off the edge of the spring. Change out your springs at least. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">uhhh, isn't this beyond the "bolt-on" classification?
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Then all these guys would never be able to say "Never had a valve cover off."
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You can shim the springs to tighten them up so the valves dont float. Would that still be considered stock internal?
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Also, is it legal to retard the cam for more top end power? Or how about changin out the 2001 cam to an earlier fbody cam. The older ones have more lift and duration. Check out raughammers site section on cams. http://xs-fx.com/raughammer/
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When I was bolton running a ~25.8" tire and 4.10s I had to raise my rev-limiter to 6500 to get through the traps at 116 mph. I could feel the car fall down after 6200 rpm and the dyno confirmed the fact that I lost a lot of power after 6200. With fresher valve springs, it may not have been as much of a problem.