03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
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03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
I am a f body freak. I'm buying #5 Saturday but this Mach 1 puzzles me. What's different about it vs the 96-00 Cobras? I raced many of those who had gears, cold air, exhaust that ran mid 13's. I drove a 93 Cobra with bolt ons (headers, catback, pullies, cold air, 3.55's) and GSCs to a 13.20 and killed every bolt on new body cobra I ran (it was my buddy's 93). What gives?
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The motor in the Mach one is very different from the motor in the 96-01 Cobras.
It's the same motor found in the current Mercury Marauder.
I read an article detailing the differences in MM&FF magazine, but I don't have it handy. Some of the changes included different camshafts, different intake and head design? Also, the Mach 1 gets a live rear axle, instead of IRS as well as an automatic transmission option. However, the automatic transmisison shifts @ 5800rpm at WOT as opposed to the 6800rpm redline that you would shift the manual. It'll be interesting to see what an automatic will do with some tuning (shift points changed) and an aftermarket converter though.
It's the same motor found in the current Mercury Marauder.
I read an article detailing the differences in MM&FF magazine, but I don't have it handy. Some of the changes included different camshafts, different intake and head design? Also, the Mach 1 gets a live rear axle, instead of IRS as well as an automatic transmission option. However, the automatic transmisison shifts @ 5800rpm at WOT as opposed to the 6800rpm redline that you would shift the manual. It'll be interesting to see what an automatic will do with some tuning (shift points changed) and an aftermarket converter though.
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
They also offer an option on this car called the drag pack which offers 4.30 gears and front sway bar delete!!A set of slicks and skinnys and youve got a solid mid to low 12 sec car with an untouched motor <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
The 4.30's option sounds cool...
Not a bad car from ford...
I want them to compare the GTO w/it in a MT article, wonder if ford would win?
Not a bad car from ford...
I want them to compare the GTO w/it in a MT article, wonder if ford would win?
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by danimal95:
<strong> They also offer an option on this car called the drag pack which offers 4.30 gears and front sway bar delete!!A set of slicks and skinnys and youve got a solid mid to low 12 sec car with an untouched motor <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OMG, that is badass; for one time in my life
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<strong> They also offer an option on this car called the drag pack which offers 4.30 gears and front sway bar delete!!A set of slicks and skinnys and youve got a solid mid to low 12 sec car with an untouched motor <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OMG, that is badass; for one time in my life
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They also offer an option on this car called the drag pack which offers 4.30 gears and front sway bar delete!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm afraid that is incorrect. The only options available on the Mach 1 are an interior upgrade package ($295) and the automatic tranny.
Redlinez...while all cars - and especially drivers - vary, 99/01 Cobra's with basic gears, exhaust, etc are capable of going well into the 12's. A few of us (including some 96-98 guys) have gone into the 11's with bolt-ons. That's a bit out of reach of the 93 Cobra (which I do like, btw).
Redlinez...while all cars - and especially drivers - vary, 99/01 Cobra's with basic gears, exhaust, etc are capable of going well into the 12's. A few of us (including some 96-98 guys) have gone into the 11's with bolt-ons. That's a bit out of reach of the 93 Cobra (which I do like, btw).
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
Damn, that would actually be somewhat of an respectable option... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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In the magazine, when they referenced the 'drag pack option', they were refering to an option that was last available on the '69 Mach 1's. It would be damn cool if they really offered it, but the EPA would eat Ford alive for that one! <img border="0" alt="[shoot]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> tree-hugging hippies <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
I saw one last week at the local Quick Trip, looked like a V6 stang with a stripe. I was kinda dissappointed. It does have 03 Cobra heads on it. I think its a bit under-rated at 320hp, but we'll see soon enough. I bet it puts out around 300rwhp.
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Thanks for straightening me out. I knew the 99 or 00 and up cobras had irs. I guess that engine was tweaked and I just haven't been up on it. That's awesome. When I drove my buddy's 93 though, none of those guys had anything for it.
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
Don't mean to be picky, but the car is rated at 305 HP vice 320. Most dyno's I've seen are between 265 and 275 RWHP (a couple over 280), putting it at ~305 to 320 flywheel, depending upon how you want to do the correction.
The curves seem to be a bit flatter and less peaky than a 99/01, and of course the factory live axle makes it a better drag racer in stock trim.
The curves seem to be a bit flatter and less peaky than a 99/01, and of course the factory live axle makes it a better drag racer in stock trim.
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
I saw an '01 GT yes that's right bolt-on only 4.6L GT run a 12.91 @ 102 two weeks ago at HRP. The run was made on BFG drag radials and he also had 4.10 gears in the rear. I would imagine the Mach 1 would be capable of 11's with boltons and a good driver.
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Re: 03 Mach 1 runs 13.15? I guess ls1's have a challenge now?
I just built my own at Ford's site. There wasn't a drag package there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />