SJM Manufacturing Inc

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Bogart and I are gauging interests at this time in a new concept P1 series rim that can be applied to the LS1 and LT1 cars. I have had a few requests in the past asking for rims with the "rivet" look.

Well now, there is a new design, it would appear slightly different near the lugs location as depicted in the pictures located at

http://www.bogartracingwheels.com/rt-5-lug-rear.gif
and
http://www.bogartracingwheels.com/rt-5-lug.gif

This is due to the fact that it is not possible to give the same type of custom dishing available with the other P1 styles that you've seen on other F-bodies. Essentially, they have P2 components built into the P1 styles. Strength-wise and weight-wise, they have the P1 characteristics. Due to the complexity of the design and material, they are in the same price range as a P2 rim (which are slightly higher then the P1 series).

What does everyone think? Please give your comments.

I do have a few customer cars on my site if anyone wants to see other rims.

Steve

ShadowZ28

I really like those. I'll be in the market soon for a pair and if those are out those will be the ones I buy. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

theblur98ss

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What the price on those? Look good but are they any more affordable then the rest of the bogarts?

BIGBOS

Those are nice, I wish I would of held out on my welds and got those instead, but I'm happy, but I have 2 ruined finishes on the frony skinnies because of the FUC*ING SALT <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[shoot]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />

Hawkn01

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Looking good Steve keep up the good work !!

Nine Ball

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I like them much better than the rest of the P1 series wheels. Probably the setup I'd like to go with.

-Tony

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by theblur98ss:
<strong> What the price on those? Look good but are they any more affordable then the rest of the bogarts? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As previously mentioned they are a little more then the P1 series as they contain P2 components and additional materials over the standard P1 series. These rims are for the person whom cares most about fitment, weight and show quality appearances. With using high quality components and meticulous assembly procedures these rims come at a price. There really is no comparison to stock shelved rims.

Steve

WILWAXU

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Need an East Coast test car? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Nine Ball

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Steve, will these new wheels be as strong as the P1 series? Meaning, can they survive some occasional street cruising?

-Tony

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong> Steve, will these new wheels be as strong as the P1 series? Meaning, can they survive some occasional street cruising?

-Tony </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, same strength properties as the P1's. Keep in mind currently, they are not spec'd out for LT1's and LS1's. I am only guaging interests at this time for them for the F-bodies. I've discussed with the Bogart family I felt we need a P1 series rim with the 'riveted" look. This is what has evolved thus far. It just has not been spec'd for the F-bodies yet.

When I refer to the spec's, It's not only the B/S that is important, as our cars go to larger calipers/rotors, it's tougher to work around the fact that 15's are hard to fit. There are other aspecs of caliper overhang etc that need to be addressed. Since these are unable to use the same type of dished or spooned out center area as the other P1 series, there are other way's that we would have to work around the calipers.

Steve

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

My rear calipers are already ground to fit Draglites. I also am already using 5/16 spacers, so will these fit my car?

I'd really like a set of those, they are <img border="0" alt="[pimp]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_pimp.gif" />

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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Rears are fine, you could use the spacers you have as frisbees <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

It's the fronts that are custom dished with our cars. This is the area that we need to address. Since this rim has a different center design verses the other P1 series, this is something that we need to work with. We are considering a custom grind for them.

Steve

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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If worse comes to worse, these should by now be available in the road race version so that may be another possibility.

XAntivenomX

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So will these tuck underneath the car a little further?

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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Depending on the application, LT1's tuck further then LS1's. LS1's will tuck in similar to the welds. Its just that no additional spacers are needed. Using seperate spacers not physically attached to the rims are not advisable as it changes the stress points on studs. Tech can also call you especially depended on your trap speeds.

Steve

SJM Manufacturing Inc

iTrader: (5)

btw looks like this may be worked out.

I'm going to be getting a set of protypes soon to do some testings and analysis on to be certain all center hub clearance issues are resolved.

Steve

GeorgeC

Those are really sweet! I'd definately consider a set for my car. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />