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Old 07-19-2007, 05:54 PM
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I just received a new McLeod 8710-00 modular bellhousing. The depth of the McLeod including the motor plate is 5.75 inches. The stock bellhousing depth is 5.5 inches. McLeod gave me the above part number before I ordered. Does anyone here know the correct part number?
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lol, good luck installing that

it's a REAL bitch
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Originally Posted by SScam68
lol, good luck installing that

it's a REAL bitch
Understatement of the Year, it's bad enough without a mid plate that extra little bit is going to be killer to make fit.

Get a RBFH ready to help massage it into place.
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i used 3 slave cylinder shims from spec to correct for the incorrect depth on mine
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The information I wanted is buried on McLeod’s web site. All GM Modular bellhousing kits use the same basic bell (8713) which is 5.550 inches deep without an intermediate plate. This really sucks. You can shim the slave but that doesn’t extend the input shaft.
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Your going to need a extended pilot bearing.
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I’m starting to get the picture. A bronze pilot bushing was included with my kit. The needle bearing pilot probably wouldn’t last long if the input shaft isn’t all the way in while the solid bushing will be ok. I plan to not use the motor plate. Thanks for the help.
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see sig

get the grinder ready too. it will fit but its definetly not bolt on
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Originally Posted by Alex @ CMS
Your going to need a extended pilot bearing.
What? Mine was only about an 1/8th inch deeper. I ran all my stock stuff and its still working great. Not that hard, just not for the faint of heart.
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Originally Posted by Torkman15
What? Mine was only about an 1/8th inch deeper. I ran all my stock stuff and its still working great. Not that hard, just not for the faint of heart.
The OP originally said be was going to run a mid plate, thats why he would need an extended Pilot bearing
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Originally Posted by Alex @ CMS
The OP originally said be was going to run a mid plate, thats why he would need an extended Pilot bearing
I'm getting confused now.

By midplate I thought he meant the plate that gets fitted between the block and the bell housing that comes from McLeod.

Did he mean an engine midplate?
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Originally Posted by SScam68
I'm getting confused now.

By midplate I thought he meant the plate that gets fitted between the block and the bell housing that comes from McLeod.

Did he mean an engine midplate?
He wasn't specific, i don't know.
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I meant that I plan to not use the McLeod plate included with the bellhousing. Without the plate the bellhousing depth is very near to stock. I don't compete seriously and don't need to pass rigid inspections. I have test fitted the Mcleod and it appears that installation will be easy. Sorry for the confusion.
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Originally Posted by Gary Z
I meant that I plan to not use the McLeod plate included with the bellhousing. Without the plate the bellhousing depth is very near to stock. I don't compete seriously and don't need to pass rigid inspections. I have test fitted the Mcleod and it appears that installation will be easy. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for the clarification.

Mine must have been made on a friday. Some of the problems I had were

-Incorrect hardware
-Some bolt holes off by .01
-Some holes not drilled and tapped completely
-Driver side upper bolt needed special tooling to fit

Plus side is I'm not afraid to dump at 7k anymore
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Originally Posted by SScam68

Plus side is I'm not afraid to dump at 7k anymore
Im not afraid with the stock housing

It seems as though this bellhousing is a pain in the ***. I just don't understand why it is so hard for these manufacturers to build something that fits well without a ton of work. Its not like the LS1 and T56 are brand new inventions, they have been around for a decade, why is it so hard to manufacturer a properly fitting product.
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Im not afraid with the stock housing
you won't be saying that if one comes apart and through the floor right at your feet.

but i am with you on the other part. i mean, Lakewood or someone else should make one. its just sad that only one company makes them for our cars.
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Im not afraid with the stock housing

It seems as though this bellhousing is a pain in the ***. I just don't understand why it is so hard for these manufacturers to build something that fits well without a ton of work. Its not like the LS1 and T56 are brand new inventions, they have been around for a decade, why is it so hard to manufacturer a properly fitting product.
couldnt believe it when i called lakewood and asked why they dont make one for a STOCK application yet they make one to adapt a t56 to a old school 350 chevy and one to mate a ls1 to 4speed

they said they'll look into it but dont see a big demand or need to make it
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sorry, but at what 1/4 mile time do you need the scatersheld?
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Originally Posted by styoung
sorry, but at what 1/4 mile time do you need the scatersheld?
11.49 for ihra atleast and aftermarket clutch's
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you really should have one of these as soon as you are willing to drop the clutch at 5000+ rpm.

To race a stick car without one of these IMO is just plain stupid... it's asking to become a cripple.


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