ScreaminSS01

Does anyone else think its weird that most stroker motors are around 500-525 rwhp. How does a h/c car do 480 then?

Nine Ball

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I'm just laughing at the doubters. Some of you guys sure do like to jump in with the BS before even realizing that things could be possible. Julio never stated that this setup was mild, or that the engine just had some parts slapped on and it pulled the number. He also never stated that it uses off-the-shelf, unmodified parts or factory accessories. Small cube engines can make over 500 rwhp, see your local SBC builders for some examples.

Congrats Cartek, you guys are great at pushing the limits and finding new power on these engines.

Tony

JayLS1-327

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Wow, great numbers guys.
Nice job Julio

ScreaminSS01

If I see it at another dyno I would believe it. Bring it down to Performance Specialties in PA. If it dynos within 10 rwhp I will pay for your gas and dyno time.

Mr. B

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Tony,

What's your feedback regarding this estimated price of the 3-X package..

Regarding the "Bang for Buck" of the new Cartek X-3 package:

This package will be top shelf, but other sponsors are within 10 hp and perhaps 20-25% (minimum) less costly.

Old Cartek LS-6 - STAGE 2-X HEADS
(pricing used for comparison- new package likely higher)
Ready to bolt on / core is required
$2,950+ CORE

TPIS "Grafted Intake"
$495.00 + $500.00 CORE

TPIS Oval Throttle Body
$650.00 + $200.00 CORE

New Cartek X-3 Cam
$450 (estimate)

Cartek Tuning w/ LS1 Edit
$550.00

Gaskets & Fluids, etc.
$300.00 (estimate)

Labor Rate
8 hours at MIN. of $60.00 = $460.00

*** TOTAL ESTIMATED COST ***

$6095.00

*$700.00 core charge included.. but not for Cylinder heads
*Electric Water Pump (if used) will increase costs $500.00

Big Mike

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ScreaminSS01,

They don't have to re dyno it or post another graph. The car runs 10.5x's at 130+ mph. I can see if the Cartek package's have not been track tested to back up their tuning results, but they have been repeatedly (SP?) track tested to back everything up.

ScreaminSS01

$6000!!! I guess Z06 owners can afford it

bspz28

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Lets see Bob I belive you spent much more then $6,095.00 on your engine and your still not running 10.5's . Plus that comes with a 6 month 12,000 mile warranty.. How can you beat that !!!!!

SScam68

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Yup!

Again Congrats to CARTEK, thats just awesome and I personally don't doubt the car will back it up at the track.

That car is flying as it is! , can't wait to see what it does when the setup gets ironed out

As for the naysayers, well it kinda reminds me of a saying "I'll let the car do the **** talking for me"

Mr. B

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Pete,

You're wrong on that.. nowhere near $6000.00, and I'm not comparing my car to Brents Vette. You seemed to have missed my point altogether..

Nine Ball

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Every shop has their own pricing. Arguing price between shop A and shop B won't get you anywhere. Some prices are based on overhead costs of the shops, or based on the expensive regional areas in which they are located. Not everything comes down to how much the perceived "value" of a specific part is. Basically, a package is worth what you will pay for it. Just because you don't choose to buy package XYZ, doesn't mean there aren't 10 others that will buy it.

This thread is about dyno results, not pricing. I think its VERY safe to say that Cartek has backed up their packages on the track. Probably more than most shops out there.

Tony

ScreaminSS01

Anyone can put up good numbers with 3100 lb raceweights.That says nothing about the package. A good driver and weight reduction could make any h/c package look good

Mr. B

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True.. but pricing does play a substantial part in the total equation, especially in the confines of the LS1 world. That's why TEA, Patriot Performance and Absolute Speed have "eaten the dinosaurs eggs" of the Top Shelf shops with bang for the buck heads.

Just a personal observation from gleaning these boards.

Jay 95WS6

i think the post said this was on brent's car when he ran the 10.59 this past week looks like a bigger cam than their 228

Jay

mike m

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props to cartek for making kick *** race car setups. if you want to go 10's cartek will set up your CAR. its not all about the h/c. think about guys with all out race cars(not ls1 cars) they spend alot more $$$ then $7000 to go high 10's. Now is this brents car whose dyno sheet we are looking at? if so could he post his complete setup to show what it takes to run 10's. in his z06.

Pro Stock John

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MRB, this thread is not about bang for the buck, this thread is about making the most power you can with a stock bottom end.

I think Cartek more than backs up their numbers by hitting the track like 20 times a year.

I've seen Z06's with airbox and exhaust mods, including headers, hit 380rwhp so can a stock bottom end Z06 motor hit 480rwhp to me? Yes. FWIW I have seen a 03 Z06 crate motor hit 380rwhp in a 98 Z M6 so right off the bat the Z06 motor makes great power. Don't base the doubter comments off of what LS1 longblocks make stock.

Nytmare

Nice numbers Cartek!!!!! There was a post about 2 weeks ago about the rev 2 package costing $7999. Don't know how too put it up here though. If you guys think this is a cheap package then your'e WRONG ! Like that guy says, you have too PAY to PLAY ! Can't believe i'm saying this, but go get'um CARTEK !!!!! I'm still coming for you guys at the tuner shootout !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Nytmare

This package is not for the faint of heart. Hell the Rev 2 package separated Men from Boys ! If you are tired of running those lame times you guys are running , then this package is the way too go ! But............So is LG'sssssssssssssssss!!!!! SO is Frutral'ssssssssssssssssssss!!! Keep that in mind for you $ 5000 heads/cam people !

John B

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Major Props to Juilo and the Cartek gang!

Now, to some of our members.......I thought that the maturity level was a little higher on this board but I guess not. How anyone can hitch onto this post and even try to discredit anything about this R&D effort is just uncalled for. Here a Sponsor with a passion for power and speed (which I thought we all shared in common) is telling us about his latest efforts which are clearly the most outstanding performance numbers demonstrated to date for a dyno session and track generated MPH with a stock bottom end LS6 and we have people chiming in here questioning the "real power level" or the guestimated price of this package, etc, etc. SHAME ON YOU!

This thread should be all about encouraging Juilo and his boys (and other vendors) to really pull the stops and come up with the first 346 LS6 with 500 RWHP and the track times to back it up with a MPH in the 132+ range!

The fact that we are all benefiting from their R&D efforts (along with the other vendors) should be very self satisfying.

To start whining about price, best value, etc. in a post like this is utter non-sense. It cost $$$ to play and when you put down the kind of numbers that Cartek has (both on the dyno and at the track) we should all be , not whining! If you'd like to start your own "best value" thread, feel free to do so but don't do it here. Cartek never claimed to have the cheapest package, just the most powerful and based on their numbers.....they have it!

Again, major props Cartek!

niphilli

Since when did this site start having so many bullshit comments made in good threads?

These are great results that I am sure came from ALOT of R&D. I think that Cartek is the best in the industry at matching heads and camshafts together in a package...Period