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Old 12-01-2003, 02:29 PM
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Yea, I mean, hello, 480+ rwhp from stock bottom end heads cam stock displacement motor!!!! I expect by next summer someone will find 500. That helps those of us who would be happy with 450rwhp ($$$$ less). Thanks again Cartek!!!!
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Congrats to Cartek and Brent on both impressive dyno numbers, and impressive track numbers...
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Thanks again guys.

Originally Posted by ScreaminSS01
Anyone can put up good numbers with 3100 lb raceweights.That says nothing about the package. A good driver and weight reduction could make any h/c package look good
ScreaminSS01, brent's race weight is 3250-3270 depending on fuel load, that's about the average for a 2002 Z06 with CCWs and a roll bar.

BTW, Brent ran 10.585 @ 130.6 mph on Tuesday at ATCO. DA was -1200 but traction wasn't great. 1.486-60'.

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Originally Posted by niphilli
Since when did this site start having so many bullshit comments made in good threads?

These are great results that I am sure came from ALOT of R&D. I think that Cartek is the best in the industry at matching heads and camshafts together in a package...Period

I agree 1000% :
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That looks like a great package to slap on top of a built shortblock and 4.10 or higher gears. The gears will give it plenty of pull on the street at lower rpms and at the track a 5000 rpm clutch dump eliminates any "torque" issues.

Nice work guys!
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For all those who may be interested here is a recent post i just copied from the vetteforum that was posted by DAVE, Co-Owner of Cartek, regarding what exactly is in BRENT's Car with his recent Cartek H/C 3xx package that got his car 10.58 ets at over 130 mph. This is the most recent 3x package that is the nature of this current thread and is wha is in BRENT's car (the fasted documented C5/z06 vette h/c stock bottom end/cubed on the forums. ENJOY:


Here is a list of parts.

Cartek Stage 2X ZO6 heads complete.
Cartek NEW XXX Cam. Specs are proprietary for now.
Cromoly push rods.
Cartek ported ZO6 intake.
Cartek proprietary throttle body.
Vararam
Stock mass air
Cartek Flowed and matched set of 30# injectors.
Stock Rocker arms.
Cartek double roller timing chain.
ASP under drive pulley.
Headers, TPIS, Cartek 1 7/8, and Kooks 1 3/4 with a lot of input from Cartek
Cartek custom X pipe.
Borla Stingers
Cartek 4.10 differential with Cartek HD output shaft.
Cartek Level 7 Clutch.
B+M shifter.
5 point harness.
5 point roll bar
CCW drag package with 26, 11.5, 16" tires.
Cartek custom dyno tuning.
Mezier electric water pump.

We are not done yet. We are still testing all the components. Brent’s car has over 480 RWHP with the changes made. When were done this will be our new Triple X package. Brent’s car ran 10.59 @130 with the 224/228 X cam (462RWHP) and his new best with the new XXX cam. The 60’ wasn’t there yet. Joe (KH24) is running the standard X package and will update to the Rev 2 soon. Joe’s car does not have the water pump, throttle body, and bigger cam. We wanted to make it clear that Brent’s car has some new “testing” of components. Our customers asked for more and we never stop testing. You can call or email me for pricing.

Great runs Brent congratulations on your new best.

[Modified by Davidjbusch, 11:38 AM 11/28/2003]

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Gee more great numbers from this magical car? Why aren't there any other non-local cars running around with big Cartek heads/cam numbers? Why do all the great dyno numbers from Cartek always come in the winter months?
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Originally Posted by Terry Burger
Gee more great numbers from this magical car? Why aren't there any other non-local cars running around with big Cartek heads/cam numbers? Why do all the great dyno numbers from Cartek always come in the winter months?

Hey Terry, youre back! As a matter of fact, there is Brent 10.58 @ 130.6, Joe 10.69 @ 128.6, Mark 10.80 @ 127.4, Pete 10.7s @ 128.5. And guess what? None of them have a wooden hatch. LOL

BTW, here is a video of Brent's 10.59 @ 129.95 run. ---> http://www.cartek.net/videos/brent1059.wmv

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Long time no stir Terry......
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Hey Terry, youre back! As a matter of fact, there is Brent 10.58 @ 130.6, Joe 10.69 @ 128.6, Mark 10.80 @ 127.4, Pete 10.7s @ 128.5. And guess what? None of them have a wooden hatch.
All light weight Z06's with 4.10s racing in New Jersey weather? Take those cars to a state where the DA is +1200 or more and let us know how they run and dyno...

How about these Cartek Stage 2x results: 362rwhp with tuning on an M6? Just a minor revision and a set of headers away from another 120rwhp right?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=694320
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Originally Posted by Terry Burger
All light weight Z06's with 4.10s racing in New Jersey weather? Take those cars to a state where the DA is +1200 or more and let us know how they run and dyno...

How about these Cartek Stage 2x results: 362rwhp with tuning on an M6? Just a minor revision and a set of headers away from another 120rwhp right?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=694320
Terry you are referring to a Stage 2X LS1 heads and cam with, stock manifolds, cats, mufflers, 99 LS1 intake, and tuning by Ray Charles, 10.5 AF Ratio. Even you can tune better than that.
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Originally Posted by Redlinez
Yea, I mean, hello, 480+ rwhp from stock bottom end heads cam stock displacement motor!!!! I expect by next summer someone will find 500. That helps those of us who would be happy with 450rwhp ($$$$ less). Thanks again Cartek!!!!
The price will be the same as our Stage 2X heads and cam. The price on a complete package depends on what other components you need.
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Originally Posted by DavidBusch
tuning by Ray Charles, 10.5 AF Ratio. Even you can tune better than that.


Please don't insult Ray Charles.

Hey Terry was that plywood or balsa wood you used on the hatch?
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I think it was card board and Duct tape
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Originally Posted by John B
Major Props to Juilo and the Cartek gang!
Now, to some of our members.......I thought that the maturity level was a little higher on this board but I guess not. How anyone can hitch onto this post and even try to discredit anything about this R&D effort is just uncalled for. Here a Sponsor with a passion for power and speed (which I thought we all shared in common) is telling us about his latest efforts which are clearly the most outstanding performance numbers demonstrated to date for a dyno session and track generated MPH with a stock bottom end LS6 and we have people chiming in here questioning the "real power level" or the guestimated price of this package, etc, etc. SHAME ON YOU!
This thread should be all about encouraging Juilo and his boys (and other vendors) to really pull the stops and come up with the first 346 LS6 with 500 RWHP and the track times to back it up with a MPH in the 132+ range!
The fact that we are all benefiting from their R&D efforts (along with the other vendors) should be very self satisfying.
To start whining about price, best value, etc. in a post like this is utter non-sense. It cost $$$ to play and when you put down the kind of numbers that Cartek has (both on the dyno and at the track) we should all be , not whining! If you'd like to start your own "best value" thread, feel free to do so but don't do it here. Cartek never claimed to have the cheapest package, just the most powerful and based on their numbers.....they have it!
Again, major props Cartek!
Well said.
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Originally Posted by Terry Burger
Gee more great numbers from this magical car? Why aren't there any other non-local cars running around with big Cartek heads/cam numbers? Why do all the great dyno numbers from Cartek always come in the winter months?
So I take it that the implication here is that it didn't actually happen? The numbers/time slips are all fake/made up?



Originally Posted by Terry Burger
All light weight Z06's with 4.10s racing in New Jersey weather? Take those cars to a state where the DA is +1200 or more and let us know how they run and dyno...
Yeah, and if you took your cars to say, Denver CO or even the Brazilian rain forest I bet they wouldn't ET/dyno as well either, what's your point?
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That is one fast stock bottom end Vette that would hold it's own at any good track at any DA.

Fast is fast and HP is HP,congrats to Brent on his set up and to Dave and Julio for the stable of 10 second Cartek rides.
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Originally Posted by Terry Burger
All light weight Z06's with 4.10s racing in New Jersey weather? Take those cars to a state where the DA is +1200 or more and let us know how they run and dyno...

How about these Cartek Stage 2x results: 362rwhp with tuning on an M6? Just a minor revision and a set of headers away from another 120rwhp right?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=694320
well, i have see these cars run down here in florida at the vette viper shoot out in Brandenton. they are fast. and the DA that day i can tell you was about +2000 but they were impressive from my stand point. seen the vette 460hp vette trap 124. about right for the power and they weather at the time. most passes were 11.00 flat. but i do think they did go 10's that day. just didn't see it. track was hooking like no other. i just chalk it up as different area. different times. i myself am not a dyno fan. but cartek took thier car to the track and let her ripped. so that says alot in itself.... now here is my thing. i sprayed a 150 made 560 rwhp car weight 3460 with out me in it. now, how do these guys get 130 traps out of a 460 hp car?? and the car weight 3200. the best my car went on spray is close to 129. altho i am sure she had 130 in it... thats what makes me

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Originally Posted by Terry Burger
Gee more great numbers from this magical car? Why aren't there any other non-local cars running around with big Cartek heads/cam numbers? Why do all the great dyno numbers from Cartek always come in the winter months?
Tell you what Terry, I don't have a Cartek setup. At the EFA shootout. BSPZ's Cartek Z/28 had more than 3 mph on every other H/C car there. Me, Moose, Fireball, Loader (OnyxSS's old car), ect. His car is light, but he backed up this later with multiple 10 second passes. Maybe because you are on the left coast and didn't see it happen, these times aren't valid to you. I was there and saw it happen. Cartek has consistently backed up their dyno numbers with ET's whether you want to believe it or not. To me the track times of the Cartek cars are more impressive than their awsome dyno numbers. Their stuff hauls ***, get over it.

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Hey Terry was that plywood or balsa wood you used on the hatch?
Damn Julio, I didn't think anyone else remembered that! HAHAHAHA! Terry, be a good boy.


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