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Old 10-15-2009, 10:53 AM
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Default My 408 Results... I Think I need a Converter...

**Numbers are with the converter Unlocked**

Car is an A4 with a Performabuilt Lvl 1 and Billet Stall.

SpeedInc Iron 408 Shortblock
Patriot LS6 227cc Heads
Comp Cams 236/240 .571/.571(I think) 113LSA
LS6 Intake
Fast 36 Lb/Hr Injectors
Double Roller Adjustable Timing Set
LS6 Valley Cover
!A/C !EGR !AIR

Car was dynoed on a Mustang Dyno, but I was told that it was tuned pretty much to be the same as a DynoJet.

Car made 375rwhp/431rwtq the converter wouldnt stay locked on the dyno.

Kinda disappointed but what do you guys think?
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I would say the ls6 intake, exhaust and tiny lift numbers on your cam are killing your power. 375 is pretty lousy for your combo even with an unlocked converter.
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Well the converter was built to be a 3400 stall on the stock engine and now it's super loose.. I spoke with the guys over at yank and was told that the power is blowing through the converter. A new converter should help a lot.

The tuner said now to look at the numbers and if I threes a set of tires on the car it woul go high 10's at like 120 or so so I gotta get to the track and see..

Just curious what you guys think.
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I'd fork over the coin for a Circle D Billet Pro series. WOT lockup capable, custom built to your needs, you won't ever hurt it.
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thats a pretty small cam for a 408 i would change the heads and intake before you swap a new cam in it if you were looking for numbers tq is way up compared to the hp
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Cam is not too small, your heads are. So is your intake manifold. Those heads don't make big power even on stock LS1s.
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Not even worth posting those #'s as I said. Post the graph so everyone can see what I mean? The converter/tranny just lets go near peak torque so the #'s are all screwed for a graph.

The car 1/4'd in mid to high 10's on my dyno which is pretty accurate.
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Actually,here it is. Red is the converter unlocking (or slipping) .The green is converter unlocked,I even rolled it early and it flashed up a bit.

BTW- The car made 400rwhp on the unlocking/slipping run.
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thats kind of a low lift for that much duration isnt it?

It is obvious the TC cant handle the power. Time to call Circle D!!!
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I have yet to see a set of those Patriot heads make any kind of decent power.
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Ya that's the graph there slowhawk did a great job tuning it it runs great I just felt like posting up tbe results for others to see and curious what others thought.

It seems a lot of people like the circle d converters better than yank?
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Originally Posted by Sk8runeg
Ya that's the graph there slowhawk did a great job tuning it it runs great I just felt like posting up tbe results for others to see and curious what others thought.

It seems a lot of people like the circle d converters better than yank?
Yank and VIG are both very reputable, respectable, proven Torque Converters. Bt Circle D has been producing incredible results and is a smaller company. The TC's recieve more attention while in production and are high quality. Many shops who have used Circle D recomend them.
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top half of the motor seems to be choking it, but obviously a converter will will. let that **** breathe.

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I have run 3 different Yanks over the years. I tried a Circle D and it's NOT coming out of the car. Give Chris a call you wont regret the switch I sure wont look back. On a side note my factory bottom end LS2 made 455/395 on a Mustang dyno when it was tuned locally. My combo is in my signature.




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