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Old 04-02-2010, 10:57 PM
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I have been wondering the same thing about my 402. Speedy's did the tune, it has afr's, fast 90/90, tsp giant cam, 1 7/8 Lt's, high flow cats, and borla cat back and put down 455hp/458ft. I was expecting more as well, this is in a m6 2004 gto.
Old 04-02-2010, 11:30 PM
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I have stock length trickflow pushrods, caddy llifters, stock rockers and patriot extreme (platinum springs). The whole motor is brand new, eagle,mahle etc. The car doesn't use or burn any oil. I guess maybe those springs could be bending the pushrods? afr is 12.8 to 1 across the entire rpm range. 29 degrees total timing, no knock whatsoever on 93 octane.
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Did you say that you are running stock injectors? How about the pump, is it also stock?
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Originally Posted by mike c.
l92's suck.lol they are a lazy head and hard to cam for most. I wish i just bought trick flows 235's back when i was going to. But,lucky for us trick flow has a l92/'ls3 head coming out end of the year. I hear it is a killer head. i talked to ed at trick flow. they shrunk the large intake valve down and i believe it's a 11 or 11.5 deg head and flows like a 245 head. can't wait to see what it will do.
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Really? I didnt have any problem making good power with my L92's.
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That cam is tiny for a 402, but 400rwhp is way too low! Get a better cam!
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Check the exhaust back pressure. Also, make sure it's going WOT. You'd be surprised how many people over look that.
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
There is more going on than the cam, peaking at 5600 and the 88 kPa is the issue.
^^ this,

mine was reading 95kpa @ 5,000rpm +
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PWEBBZ28 they are a lazy head. They do make power,I made 530hp right now with mine. They don't accelerate as fast as a afr,trick flow head would. I have friends with trick flows and they are just as fast as me with less power. Their tq is the same as mine with smaller ci motors. I'm happy trick flow has a head coming out for us l92/ls3 guys this year.
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Originally Posted by mike c.
PWEBBZ28 they are a lazy head. They do make power,I made 530hp right now with mine. They don't accelerate as fast as a afr,trick flow head would. I have friends with trick flows and they are just as fast as me with less power. Their tq is the same as mine with smaller ci motors. I'm happy trick flow has a head coming out for us l92/ls3 guys this year.
That's interesting.

All I have to compare it to is the GTO world to compare apples to apples. There's one with afr's, 2 cartek cars, and one with AI 243's-these 4 cars make more power than mine and are faster. Then again, these 4 cars run up north (where I run in the south) and all have FAST intakes that work with their heads where as, at least on stock ci LS2's, the FAST for L92 heads does not seem to work.

But there are dozens of others with high dollar heads and FAST intakes that make about the same or less and are slower.




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