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RSAXON1979 May 28, 2014 11:31 PM

So what's the best "donkey dick" cam???
 
OK I'm looking for a cam for my car, i want a loud choppy idle, high peak HP and i dont give 2 shits about "drivability" it is NOT a daily thats what my truck is for, i drive it for fun. After reading around i really like the "T-rex" but since thunder racing is no more thats out (unless someone makes a copy)
I've also seen the g5x3 and MS4 but I'm just wondering what other options are out there??

I would really like to see some dyno sheets of people running these cams or others that make over 400whp on stock 241 heads,stock intake,bolt ons etc...

My car setup:
2001 Formula M6 with bolt ons,
Lid
Ported throttle body
stock LS6 intake
Long tubes & off road Y pipe
4.30 gears
stock 241 heads

HCI2000SS May 29, 2014 04:30 AM

Do you mind a little flycutting?

Rise of the Phoenix May 29, 2014 08:02 AM

Well, you've got the Futral Motor Sports Godzilla cam, the Polluter, the Vindicator, the T-Rex, MS4, MS3, Texas Speed's Giant cam, and the infamous Hellion cam from Flowtech Inductions (Ed Curtis). There are others out there as well. One nice thing about the Hellion is it's huge, makes killer top end power, but has better under the curve power than most of the other "donkey dicks".

thunderstruck507 May 29, 2014 09:13 AM

I would talk to Martin at Tick about a version of his Polluter.

moeZ28 May 29, 2014 09:34 AM

A TREX v2 is an xer lobed cam ground by comp cams for thunder racing. You can spec your own. It was a 242/248 .608/.612 110+2 Lsa. Mine was actually a 243/249 .613/.619 110+2 but that's usually the way it goes.

Kip Fabre May 29, 2014 10:01 AM

How big do you want?
We have these.
Global Warmer
240/620/244/603/114

Climate Changer
245/620/250.603/114
We can grind these on 110 if you like.

www.cammotion.com

BigCityFire May 29, 2014 10:56 AM

I have the BTR Stage IV. Car is loud as shit and has a great idle to it. Search Youtube for Brian Tooley Stage IV idle. Mine is the pewter Z28. I don't have dyno numbers yet cuz my new fuel pump hasn't arrived. I'll gladly post them when I get them though.

Specs for the cam are: 235/242 .621/.593 111+3

RSAXON1979 May 29, 2014 02:19 PM

im not looking to fly cut i want to leave the stock heads on and change the springs out.

im also probably not gonna rev over 6500/6700 on the stock bottom end so something that makes power up to 8k is useless. What i want is to make over 400whp for as long as possible and have a nasty idle lope (yes i know sound means nothing as far as power)

I had read that the T-rex was one of the nastiest and most extreme cams you could get for an ls1 on stock heads but most of what i read was threads from 10 years ago and now its not available off the shelf anymore, so i was wondering if within the past 10 years with advancements in technology something better "off the shelf" had come around.

If anyone has dyno's that make 400+whp on a similar setup to mine id love to see them along with your cam specs.

Jtm2085 May 29, 2014 02:38 PM

I am going to order the BTR stage 4 very soon. I have been impressed with the numbers Ive seen and people swear the drivability is great. Also no need to flycut. Check it out

Rise of the Phoenix May 29, 2014 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by RSAXON1979 (Post 18238237)
im not looking to fly cut i want to leave the stock heads on and change the springs out.

im also probably not gonna rev over 6500/6700 on the stock bottom end so something that makes power up to 8k is useless. What i want is to make over 400whp for as long as possible and have a nasty idle lope (yes i know sound means nothing as far as power)

I had read that the T-rex was one of the nastiest and most extreme cams you could get for an ls1 on stock heads but most of what i read was threads from 10 years ago and now its not available off the shelf anymore, so i was wondering if within the past 10 years with advancements in technology something better "off the shelf" had come around.

If anyone has dyno's that make 400+whp on a similar setup to mine id love to see them along with your cam specs.


You don't need a "donkey dick" cam to get a nice lope and 400 rwhp. As long as you've got the basic bolt-ons like headers, exhaust, lid you can get there with something along the lines of a Torquer V2 or similar size cam. Your drivability will be better, you'll make more under the curve power, yet still obtain 400 rwhp. My suggestion would be to get with a vendor on here and get a custom cam. Also, getting the most out of the setup while making sure drivability is good is all in the tune. A shitty tune can make a 224r cam drive like shit while a spot on tune can make a MS3 cam drive like stock.

JayplaySS May 29, 2014 02:51 PM

G6X3 in an LS1 would be nice to see

Rise of the Phoenix May 29, 2014 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by JayplaySS2 (Post 18238294)
G6X3 in an LS1 would be nice to see

Works out nice for you, but you aren't exactly stock cubes.

Zmg00camaross May 29, 2014 02:59 PM

OP my eps 234/246 cam on a 111 lsa sounds awesome. Dyno at 427 rwhp with slicks and 4.56 in a 9 inch. M6 car and runs in the 10s. One thing I will say I you want a giant came in a otherwise stock LS1 with the normal bolt on stuff, you better be light and have gears or little pissy cam cars or properly set up light cam and head cars will rock you. And of course new 5.0 run damn good. If you have supporting mods for a big cam then go crazy. If it's 3400lbs race weight or higher it will be a slug. Edit!!! Gears look ok seen the 4.30 lol

Sales@Tick May 29, 2014 06:38 PM

When my car was cam only:

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/...pse3bc58e1.jpg

TH400 (unlocked converter), 12 bolt rear end, spool with 4.11's, 275/60/15 drag radials at 18psi of air, Fast 92/92, ARH 1x7/8" headers with 12" extensions, Custom Comp camshaft.

Best E.T. of 6.38@104.5mph 1.29 60' on 275/60 radials. 3000 lbs. race weight.

RSAXON1979 May 29, 2014 10:54 PM

Very nice Martin!! Was that a custom grind or off the shelf?? Care to share the specs??

Sales@Tick May 30, 2014 08:23 AM

It was a custom grind.

239/247 110lsa.

black06g85 May 30, 2014 11:02 AM

just did a polluter v2 in my buddies vette, no flycutting and sounds mean

studderin May 30, 2014 02:16 PM

pablo escobar cam. 450 whp, LS1 stock 241s cam only

low2001gmc May 30, 2014 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by studderin (Post 18240369)
pablo escobar cam. 450 whp, LS1 stock 241s cam only

i am a fan of yours studderin, new era and edc at fti, and was gonna say fti ssht with the 228-232, 612-600, 111+3 and then i see you post the

pablo escobar cam

wth...lol...i know who pablo escobar was but if thats a real cam...chime in on specs bro...:secret2:

Rise of the Phoenix May 30, 2014 03:14 PM

I bet it's a custom cam done up for him that was given a nice little name. There is a guy on here running a red Vette that has a EDC cam that he affectionately named the Barbra Streisand cam.


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