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Old 04-10-2017, 12:25 PM
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Default Mac mids, ORY, Flowmaster. Vs. SE LTd and TSP new cat back

Well I have a dyno tune scheduled for this Thursday the 13th of April to see how much I actually gained by switching from Mac mids an ORY, and a Flowmaster cat back. To Speed Engineerings LT, ORY, and Texas Speeds new cat back. I have heard how bad the flowmaster is so I guess well know soon enough. The old set up got me 391hp and 391 tq. I will post dyno sheets asap!

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Interesting , my mac mids with cats lost over 35 rwhp over my 1 7/8,s with hf cats .
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Interesting , my mac mids with cats lost over 35 rwhp over my 1 7/8,s with hf cats .
I have 1 3/4 headers, but I would be happy with 20.
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Originally Posted by dave04da
I have 1 3/4 headers, but I would be happy with 20.
Did your car ever set 02 sensor codes with the macs ?
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Originally Posted by dave04da
I have 1 3/4 headers, but I would be happy with 20.
How was the fit, finish, and clearance with the SE headers?
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Originally Posted by andrewss
Did your car ever set 02 sensor codes with the macs ?
When I had their catted y pipe it would occasionally. I had them tuned out when I did my cam swap and ORY.
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Originally Posted by ironmanLS1
How was the fit, finish, and clearance with the SE headers?
The headers were awesome. They both slid right in without having to remove anything. I also did poly motor mounts at the same time, and even with them installed first, they still went in without having to jack the motor or remove the steering shaft.
The quality of the headers themselves was excellent. All the welds look great and the primaries were centered in the flanges, along with a nice velocity spike in the collector. You can't beat these for this price.
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Thanks Dave. I keep going back and force between TSP and SE's. Appreciated the feedback.
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Well I'm back from the dyno.... Mind you same dyno same outside temp. The only thing different was the headers and cat back. Well I LOST 20ft lbs. And 5 hp. With the new set up. My tuner was baffled! The only thing he could think was a very poorly designed header. So I am putting the Mac mids back on and am going to go back sometime next week and see what happens.
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The only thing I see ( in pictures) with those headers are the driver side, # 7 drops straight down and into the collector. But even being a bit shorter than the rest I can't see it being worse.

How does the TSP cat back look, can you see through it or is it baffled? Maybe that is the real issue ...? Hard to say without some more testing.
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Originally Posted by dave04da
Well I'm back from the dyno.... Mind you same dyno same outside temp. The only thing different was the headers and cat back. Well I LOST 20ft lbs. And 5 hp. With the new set up. My tuner was baffled! The only thing he could think was a very poorly designed header. So I am putting the Mac mids back on and am going to go back sometime next week and see what happens.
Wow, didn't see that coming . Do you have any graphs .
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Originally Posted by ironmanLS1
The only thing I see ( in pictures) with those headers are the driver side, # 7 drops straight down and into the collector. But even being a bit shorter than the rest I can't see it being worse.

How does the TSP cat back look, can you see through it or is it baffled? Maybe that is the real issue ...? Hard to say without some more testing.
The cat back looks great. Very similar to the magnaflow. I havd to cut up th flowmaster to get it off so that isn't going back on. I dont think I would anyway I love the sound of the TSP one plus it has a cutout.
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The collector of the Speed Engineering header sucks. I bought them for my truck but replaced the collector with a true merge style with transition cone and ball/socket connections.



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