Ls3 lg g6x3 full bolt ons low numbers 2004 c5 zo6 ls3 motor swap lg g6x3 cam ls7 lifters smith brothers trunion kit btr 660. Springs ls3 intake manifold with stock ls3 injectors ls2 Vmax ported tb vararam intake ati 25% ud pulley Improved racing crank scrapper arh 1 7/8 headers catless x pipe corsa extreme act dual disc clutch 3.73 gears The car put down on a mustang dyno 431rwhp 431 rwtq 91 pump gas 10.7 compression /stock seems low for the set up and seeing other identical builds put down north of 470 to the wheels https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...5cef50ffc.jpeg |
Peak is way too soon..should make peank hp around 6400-6500. |
Originally Posted by Johnnystock
(Post 20078467)
Peak is way too soon..should make peank hp around 6400-6500. i was thinking maybe the cam wasn’t installed right but then again this a big cam and I would have ptv issues,maybe |
I’m kinda in the same boat but different build with ls3 top end. I have a 416 with BTR stage 4 cam stock ls3 heads and Holley hi ram. My car made 511 at 6100rpm. Motor is 11.2.1. We were tuning the car on nitrous and I had a ls7 lifter collapse. I always blamed the heads but I wonder if it was the lifters with the 660 springs. Motor only has 2500miles on it. The car is currently apart right now. I’m going with Johnson short travel link bar lifters and new springs for insurance then measure new pushrods. Should be back on the dyno within a couple weeks. I’ll let ya know what happens. Lots of people told me the stock heads shouldn’t restrict RPM but would restrict HP. I’m no engine builder/professional but believe the people that have told me this. |
You might have just had a bad lifter. Stock LS3 heads are normally good for around 600FWHP |
Swap out to some Johnson short travels and port those heads. That cam has like a .640+ lift and did you degree the cam? |
Originally Posted by Johnnystock
(Post 20078467)
Peak is way too soon..should make peank hp around 6400-6500. My much smaller cam has peaks HP/TQ at 6600/5400 rpms....and with 7.5* overlap, probably has much better drivability. Plus....I roll with 11.3:1 compression. The LG g6x3 cam really isn't a good match with stock compression....no mater what peak HP others have gotten. Unless.....you ALWAYS drive at 6500+ rpms. Still, on a Mustang dyno....those peak numbers ain't half bad. Just a bit low in the RPM curve. KW |
Originally Posted by sic7camaro
(Post 20078447)
2004 c5 zo6 ls3 motor swap lg g6x3 cam ls7 lifters smith brothers trunion kit btr 660. Springs ls3 intake manifold with stock ls3 injectors ls2 Vmax ported tb vararam intake ati 25% ud pulley Improved racing crank scrapper arh 1 7/8 headers catless x pipe corsa extreme act dual disc clutch 3.73 gears The car put down on a mustang dyno 431rwhp 431 rwtq 91 pump gas 10.7 compression /stock seems low for the set up and seeing other identical builds put down north of 470 to the wheels https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...5cef50ffc.jpeg Were those other builds Dyno'ed on a Dyno Jet? If so your looking at 12.5% - 13.5% higher numbers than you will see on Mustang Dyno. Just a 10.0% correction would put RWHP at 473.1, 12.5% 483.75 My engine makes 360 RWHP on Mustang it's tuned on VS 406 RWHP on Dyno jet I used for compairson purposes.. On long Black Dyno it makes no difference. . |
I think your issue is on the induction side. I do not think a ls3 intake and basically stock size throttle feeding a 416. I bet if you could see the data you are pulling a vacuum at WOT. Def peaked low. Torque at 4800 says cam is about right. Power should peak around 6500 on that cam. Maybe try a sniper and 102 throttle just to support some rpm |
Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
(Post 20083362)
I think your issue is on the induction side. I do not think a ls3 intake and basically stock size throttle feeding a 416. I bet if you could see the data you are pulling a vacuum at WOT. Def peaked low. Torque at 4800 says cam is about right. Power should peak around 6500 on that cam. Maybe try a sniper and 102 throttle just to support some rpm |
Agreed that it peaks low but the graph looks smooth. If they are running a true MD calibration those are pretty good numbers. It would be around 490ish on a Dynojet. We run a "correction" factor on our MD dyno to display DynoJet numbers. The correction factor is 15-16% IIRC. We got tired of customers complaining why their car didn't make the power the internet said it should. We talked to MD and they gave use a math calibration to spit out Dyno Jet numbers. |
At this point my concern is the rpm and why it drops sooner then I think this cam is designed ls7 lifters and the valve springs ? |
I'm not sure of the LG cam specs (don't buy cams from people who don't give you specs) but my LS3 made 470 on a Mustang dyno and pulled well to 7000 with probably a smaller cam. I had same lifters, springs, pulley, headers, gear ratio etc. However I did have a FAST 102 that makes a good difference above 6000RPM and I was on 93 octane fuel. What is your timing up top on 91 octane? |
Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
(Post 20085498)
I'm not sure of the LG cam specs (don't buy cams from people who don't give you specs) but my LS3 made 470 on a Mustang dyno and pulled well to 7000 with probably a smaller cam. I had same lifters, springs, pulley, headers, gear ratio etc. However I did have a FAST 102 that makes a good difference above 6000RPM and I was on 93 octane fuel. What is your timing up top on 91 octane? |
What length pushrods? My bet is that or cam installed wrong. |
Yea, something is off. Main thing I see is the shape. Tq dropping off right after about 49xxrpm. As it dropping so hard it does not even make more power than tq along with the peak around 6k. That setup/cam should most definitely make more power than tq. |
Originally Posted by ddnspider
(Post 20085512)
What length pushrods? My bet is that or cam installed wrong. cam was installed dot to dot The valvetrain is quit considering the cam size |
Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
(Post 20085516)
Yea, something is off. Main thing I see is the shape. Tq dropping off right after about 49xxrpm. As it dropping so hard it does not even make more power than tq along with the peak around 6k. That setup/cam should most definitely make more power than tq. |
If the cam was installed wrong torque would peak low. It is peaking at 4800 right where it should. Check your map readings at wot. I bet it is pulling a vacuum. Indicating induction not keeping up. Starving for air at higher rpm. |
That cam will rev to 7k and as said bolton LS3's can make that number. It's more than just an intake issue, besides the fact that very few LS motors ever make the same torque number as HP. |
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