Best dyno proven intake/TB for a 225 head 402?
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Best dyno proven intake/TB for a 225 head 402?
Big cam, hyd, in the 245-257 range.
I currently run the Fast 90/NW 90, and see 125 MPH (best of 127) in the 1/4 mile, with a raceweight of 3559. On motor.
The car is a street/strip combo, set up for NOS. Just wondering what has been dyno proven for this combo.
Iron block, AFR 225.
I currently run the Fast 90/NW 90, and see 125 MPH (best of 127) in the 1/4 mile, with a raceweight of 3559. On motor.
The car is a street/strip combo, set up for NOS. Just wondering what has been dyno proven for this combo.
Iron block, AFR 225.
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Get Tony Mamo to port your FAST, then make sure all your piping to your airbox is 90mm or better. If you're running a MAF, there are a few ponies available by removing it, but at this point, the FAST is the choke point of the system. The more you get it to flow, the more your heads will flow.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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Originally Posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS
If it's the choke, then wouldn't a sheet metal intake be better? Or would this not be good on the street?
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The sheet metal intake typically has much shorter runners than a FAST intake. This is going to bias the torque and hp peaks to a much higher rpm level. On the bonus side, the sheet metal intake won't lop off the flow of your excellent heads the way a FAST intake will, so this will help you make more power. If it's a racecar, the sheet metal intake is the way to go...but keep in mind, LS1 Joe's sheet metal intake for example, wasn't better than his FAST until 6500 rpm. For a street/strip car, a long runner sheet metal intake is the ultimate. The Harrop IR intake is a good example of giving you the best of both worlds.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The sheet metal intake typically has much shorter runners than a FAST intake. This is going to bias the torque and hp peaks to a much higher rpm level. On the bonus side, the sheet metal intake won't lop off the flow of your excellent heads the way a FAST intake will, so this will help you make more power. If it's a racecar, the sheet metal intake is the way to go...but keep in mind, LS1 Joe's sheet metal intake for example, wasn't better than his FAST until 6500 rpm. For a street/strip car, a long runner sheet metal intake is the ultimate. The Harrop IR intake is a good example of giving you the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by 98redorangeta
I havnet seen the dyno results but what about carb style intakes arent they doing pretty good?
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Originally Posted by Louie83
So I take you are saying the Harrop makes just as good low rpm numbers as the Fast? What accounts for this difference in the Harrop compared to other sheet metal intakes?
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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Originally Posted by Judd
Did 540 RWHP and nearly 500ftlbs of torque. 402 with ported 225 AFRs with a bit bigger cam {256/264}. Ported LSX and NW 90mm TB.
If porting the intake gets such great gains, then the intake is a big bottle neck to the heads. How about the Wilson intake? I dont have a problem sticking with what I have, if it is the best I can do, but it looks like not to many guys are experimenting with different options to see what is best.
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Yes it was a 6 speed. Wasn't really trying to make a comparison to an automatic just giving my results. Have not ran the car yet {probably won't untill spring} but my old set-up {cam only 346 with 400HP} trapped as high as 118.5mph.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
Just out of curiosity, will the Harrop properly mount to the newer intake ports, i.e., L92, LS7, etc?
It is not ideal, but the cost of tooling another design from scratch is prohibitive.