Kooks 1 7/8 to American Racing 1 7/8
10-31-2006, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Internet arguments are like bar fights, they go from talking to fighting just like that. Please try to resolve this guys.
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10-31-2006, 10:27 AM
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So basically, the Kooks advantage over AR is their y-pipe and CATS.
But for a true dual set-up, the AR headers would make more power than the Kooks.
Or did I miss something?
But for a true dual set-up, the AR headers would make more power than the Kooks.
Or did I miss something?
10-31-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BigArchidia
Louie, This thread originated with A.R. Headers substantially outperforming Kook's on a C5. The F-body system was dragged into it later because someone is on an agenda.
This george guy has been all over other forums
Talking sh-t about AR. For free headers he got from Kooks.
Because AR has taken a big bite out of Kooks sales.
Wait till they see the Charger & new mustang, jeep srt8 headers
This will be JR
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10-31-2006, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wheeelzzz
When i talked to the guys they said.
This george guy has been all over other forums
Talking sh-t about AR. For free headers he got from Kooks.
Because AR has taken a big bite out of Kooks sales.
Wait till they see the Charger & new mustang, jeep srt8 headers
This will be JR
This george guy has been all over other forums
Talking sh-t about AR. For free headers he got from Kooks.
Because AR has taken a big bite out of Kooks sales.
Wait till they see the Charger & new mustang, jeep srt8 headers
This will be JR
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....2&postcount=10
and i payed for my headers from Kooks
10-31-2006, 11:04 PM
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As much as I don't want to respond in this post here goes...
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
11-01-2006, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
As much as I don't want to respond in this post here goes...
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
so you had a ARH with a merge and a kooks without a merge if so kooks now has a merge and im sure you will see the same hp results also what size headers you running
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11-01-2006, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
As much as I don't want to respond in this post here goes...
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
your quote" Yeah, about 3mph with the DA figured in. The headers went from a 1 3/4" to a 1 7/8" but the ID changed pretty drastically @ points. Do you think 137-138mph is out of the question with -2000' air? We see that in the later parts of october here."
11-01-2006, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
As much as I don't want to respond in this post here goes...
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
I switched from LG Pro Long tubes with no cats to American Racing headers with no cats and picked up 3mph and .3 ET at the track. Same A/F, the car was tuned on every pass and took an average ET and MPH. There was no timing change, A/F was within .2 and the car posted solid 3mph and .3 gains. MPH went from 128.7-129.1 to a solid 132.0-132.4. Oh its an all motor 346 on pump gas.
your quote" Yeah, about 3mph with the DA figured in. The headers went from a 1 3/4" to a 1 7/8" but the ID changed pretty drastically @ points. Do you think 137-138mph is out of the question with -2000' air? We see that in the later parts of october here."
11-01-2006, 06:23 AM
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With 35+ Years Of Experience! Why is kooks now changing there header.
Why because American Racing has a better design. With all them years of Experience.
There now copy cats What a shame
Why because American Racing has a better design. With all them years of Experience.
There now copy cats What a shame
11-01-2006, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 07BlueDevilZ06
why dont you post all the facts you changed header size thats the big difference nice test of apples to apples
your quote" Yeah, about 3mph with the DA figured in. The headers went from a 1 3/4" to a 1 7/8" but the ID changed pretty drastically @ points. Do you think 137-138mph is out of the question with -2000' air? We see that in the later parts of october here."
your quote" Yeah, about 3mph with the DA figured in. The headers went from a 1 3/4" to a 1 7/8" but the ID changed pretty drastically @ points. Do you think 137-138mph is out of the question with -2000' air? We see that in the later parts of october here."
Why don't you start your own thread and get off mine.
The bottom line is Kooks has an inferior design, they got their *** kicked by AR and now they are trying to catch up.
11-01-2006, 09:23 AM
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2c5s: terribly sorry your thread went to ****......i've been following your 408 build from the start btw. FWIW thank you for spending the time to post up the comparison.
11-01-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 07BlueDevilZ06
so you had a ARH with a merge and a kooks without a merge if so kooks now has a merge and im sure you will see the same hp results also what size headers you running
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11-01-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 07BlueDevilZ06
why dont you post all the facts you changed header size thats the big difference nice test of apples to apples
your quote" Yeah, about 3mph with the DA figured in. The headers went from a 1 3/4" to a 1 7/8" but the ID changed pretty drastically @ points. Do you think 137-138mph is out of the question with -2000' air? We see that in the later parts of october here."
your quote" Yeah, about 3mph with the DA figured in. The headers went from a 1 3/4" to a 1 7/8" but the ID changed pretty drastically @ points. Do you think 137-138mph is out of the question with -2000' air? We see that in the later parts of october here."
1850' BEFORE with LG
2500' AFTER with AR
2.2mph gain with almost 700' higher altitude... NEXT
I'm running less timing now(Nitrous tune) which in testing has shown lower MPH, the car now goes 132.x in 875' weather with a nitrous tune.
11-01-2006, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wheeelzzz
When i talked to the guys they said.
This george guy has been all over other forums
Talking sh-t about AR. For free headers he got from Kooks.
Because AR has taken a big bite out of Kooks sales.......
Wait till they see the Charger & new mustang, jeep srt8 headers
This will be JR
This george guy has been all over other forums
Talking sh-t about AR. For free headers he got from Kooks.
Because AR has taken a big bite out of Kooks sales.......
Wait till they see the Charger & new mustang, jeep srt8 headers
This will be JR
......
11-02-2006, 02:27 AM
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im still waiting for a PM to find out who i can buy AR headers from for my vette NOT an f-body and a price. since someone said they are cheaper. i found a website on google that sells them and they want $1550 for them with no cat x-pipe. i need 1 7/8.