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Old 11-15-2006, 06:58 PM
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Default Comparison Trickflow 225 VS. Lingenfelter stage 3

This was the ONLY change to the car between these two dyno pulls.

Yeseterday i put it on the dyno again and got a consistant 4 more lbs of tq so that is now at 445 I am going to run it again on saturday and see if I can tune some more hp out of it. These pulls were with about 25 dyno passes on the lingenfelter heads tuning them and 3 on the trickflows I think there is still more power in the trickflows as of now

I am sorry the ink was getting low on the printer

Lingenfelter 484.58rwp 425.15 rwtq
TRickflow 506.56rwp 441.51rwtq


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I'm sure TFS has more in them & really nice gains so far buddy

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It is hard to read the graph, did you go from 483rwhp to 507rwhp with the head change?


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It is hard to read the graph, did you go from 483rwhp to 507rwhp with the head change?


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Actually It seems 485rwhp to 507rwhp to me

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I am sorry the ink was getting low on the printer

Lingenfelter 484.58rwp 425.15 rwtq
TRickflow 506.56rwp 441.51rwtq

(latest dyno 445.2rwtq I will post more of that on saturday when I get it back on for more tuning)
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congrats on the nice gain
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22rwhp and 16rwtq peak is a great gain. But what is better is that your power under the curve has increased a good bit as well and that is the kind of horsepower you can feel.

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Nice comparison, but I am warning people to stay civil.. I have been asked by other mods to give you guys a chance to make this a good thread.. How old were the Lingenfelter heads? Give specs on both heads as well. Give prospective buyers a chance to compare apples to apples..
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Nice comparison, but I am warning people to stay civil.. I have been asked by other mods to give you guys a chance to make this a good thread.. How old were the Lingenfelter heads? Give specs on both heads as well. Give prospective buyers a chance to compare apples to apples..
Lingenfelter stage 3 243 castings milled to 11.5:1 compression Heads were brand new running stock rockers in the dyno runs showed and made that same power everytime dynoed for 6-8 months

Trickflow 225 heads milled to 12:1 compression Heads are brand new with harland sharp roller rockers these heads have been on for a month or so and I have dynoed them at those numbers reapeatedly as well

You can see that the lingefelters had an airtemp of 65 degrees f
while the trickflows were at 86 degrees f that was about the only difference which may have made a bit more power for the lpe heads but not much.
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think the compression bump and rockers helped that much also?
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Originally Posted by rons 00z
think the compression bump and rockers helped that much also?

I doubt that the rockers helped at all they are the same ratio and quite a bit heavier in my eyes they hurt it if anything. Not sure what the .5 on the compression did for it maybe a few hp.
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wow, stock bottom end?
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Originally Posted by STRIPSTAR
wow, stock bottom end?

yes stock bottom
next monday I am putting in the electric water pump so we will see what that worth as well
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what have you done to your fuel system to support the nitrous hits?
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Originally Posted by rmitchell242
Lingenfelter stage 3 243 castings milled to 11.5:1 compression Heads were brand new running stock rockers in the dyno runs showed and made that same power everytime dynoed for 6-8 months

Trickflow 225 heads milled to 12:1 compression Heads are brand new with harland sharp roller rockers these heads have been on for a month or so and I have dynoed them at those numbers reapeatedly as well

You can see that the lingefelters had an airtemp of 65 degrees f
while the trickflows were at 86 degrees f that was about the only difference which may have made a bit more power for the lpe heads but not much.
What valves were on each heads? Do you have flow #'s for both heads?
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another TFS success story. man these heads are looking promising! nice gains all the way through as well.
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You state the TFS heads are 225s. whats the Lingenfelter?
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The reason why I ask the questions I do is to make sure the comparison is fair. Some vendors Stage 3 heads are like others Stage 1 heads. Vendors pick and choose which valves they want to use and some do/dont do valve jobs, etc, but it all matters when you are comparing heads. Runner size also matters.. When you use a vendors name in a post you want to make sure we are comparing apples to apples. That is how you breed competition between the vendors. Competition will benefit us all. Otherwise the title of the post could have been 225's vs 205's or 2.08's vs 2.00... I think I have made my point..
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change the title to my 2300.00 lingenfelter heads vs. my 2500.00 tfs heads I feel that would be specific enough

This is the info I have on the lpe heads. This is from their website. I
Code: LS6LS2CNC
Price:$1,495.00

Stainless steel one piece 2.055” diameter intake valves, 1.57” stainless steel exhaust valves – per pair $440.00


Hand paper sand roll chambers and runners to remove CNC tool tracks – per pair $300.00


tfs heads have 2.055 intake valves upgraded springs set at a higher spring pressure for a few more rpms. the tfs use a .300 longer pushrod which came with the price of the heads
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Originally Posted by algws6
what have you done to your fuel system to support the nitrous hits?
just injectors and that is it so far


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