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Old 02-06-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis
Ive got one in the works for him

Nick at Williams Performance is a fantastic tuner, one of the best in the country. It will be a middle of the road cam, with some good midrange power.

450 from the punch with the smaller cam isnt bad at all
You're not kidding. It should jump right up at the hit. I know your trying to get the most out of this engine but that small cam would make a great DD in my book. I have the same cam in my C5.

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I'd have to go with the bigger cam on that one. If I'm putting a large stroker in my car, I'm assuming it's because I want to race it, and in that case, I'll take the bigger power where it counts for racing. Even the bigger cam makes plenty of torque down low.

Just because the bigger cam makes less torque down in the daily driver range doesn't mean it doesn't make enough to "get out of its own way", as a fellow LS1Techer put it while trying to explain to me why he wants all that power in the non-racing section of the graph.

Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
No somewhere in the 23x/24x on a 112.
That's pretty close to the G5X3. Why not go with something a little more in the middle of the two cams you guys already did?

EDIT - Whoops, just read the whole thread and answered my questions.

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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
I'd have to go with the bigger cam on that one. If I'm putting a large stroker in my car, I'm assuming it's because I want to race it, and in that case, I'll take the bigger power where it counts for racing. Even the bigger cam makes plenty of torque down low.

Just because the bigger cam makes less torque down in the daily driver range doesn't mean it doesn't make enough to "get out of its own way", as a fellow LS1Techer put it while trying to explain to me why he wants all that power in the non-racing section of the graph.



That's pretty close to the G5X3. Why not go with something a little more in the middle of the two cams you guys already did?

You really need to pay attention. Read the whole thread and you will understand your own questions.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The G5X3 that he has in there now is 234/242 112LSA +4. I'm not sure if your recommendation is going to make a big enough difference.
Check my original idea on a profile pat(a couple posts above), that's really where he needs to be from my experience.
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
You really need to pay attention. Read the whole thread and you will understand your own questions.
Haha, whoops. I was in and out and must have just skipped to the end. Sorry about that.
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Originally Posted by JPH
Check my original idea on a profile pat(a couple posts above), that's really where he needs to be from my experience.
I would agree with that recommendation.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
I would agree with that recommendation.


will be very close to that with tighter lobes.
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The monster cam made a solid 50rwhp gain over the smaller cam at 6700 rpms.
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Originally Posted by DrkPhx
The monster cam made a solid 50rwhp gain over the smaller cam at 6700 rpms.


I shift around 6K anyway so I was never that far upstairs. I actually prefer the loads of torque down low that the smaller cam has given us.
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Yall think about how much time the car spends from 6k-7k vs from 3k-5500rpm on the street... I would take the smaller cam vs a peaky one.. unless the car is strictly a track car.

Considering the fact that the run over 6-7k only takes about a split second and most of yall spend more time in the lower rpms.
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Originally Posted by WizeAss
Yall think about how much time the car spends from 6k-7k vs from 3k-5500rpm on the street... I would take the smaller cam vs a peaky one.. unless the car is strictly a track car.

Considering the fact that the run over 6-7k only takes about a split second and most of yall spend more time in the lower rpms.
Thanks for backing up what I said. You explained it alot better than I did.
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Originally Posted by WizeAss
Yall think about how much time the car spends from 6k-7k vs from 3k-5500rpm on the street... I would take the smaller cam vs a peaky one.. unless the car is strictly a track car.

Considering the fact that the run over 6-7k only takes about a split second and most of yall spend more time in the lower rpms.
I love driving my car on the street, but I want to go fast at the track too. I have an A4 (3.08 first gear ratio), 4000 TC with 3.73 gears. So my car has plenty of low end and mid range grunt. With the shift extension of this converter the rpms never drop below 5900 rpms at WOT and I shift at 7200 rpms (gasp). That's definitely more than a split second.
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
No. But it was not degreed 4 advanced as it was supposed to be. Might of had the breaking up even lower in the rpm range which might have made it more driveable.
4 degrees wouldn't have caused an issue like that.. It felt like the cam was off a tooth (10+ degrees)
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Originally Posted by Alvin@pcmforless.com
4 degrees wouldn't have caused an issue like that.. It felt like the cam was off a tooth (10+ degrees)

Ill be sending the cam To Cam Motion/Texas Speed next week sometime. We will find out.
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
will be very close to that with tighter lobes.
how tight? 112 would be the tightest I would do.
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What makes you say 112 is the tightest you would go?
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Originally Posted by JPH
how tight? 112 would be the tightest I would do.


We are going to go tighter than 112 and feel very confident in our choice. This G5X3 cam is so smooth and has gobs of torque down low it still amazes me. I can harldy wait to see how this next cam works. We should have some numbers late this week if everything goes well. Stay tuned. I will post all 3 dyno numbers on top of each other for you guys to compare.
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Originally Posted by Louis
What makes you say 112 is the tightest you would go?
for me, the amount of overlap the cam will have, and placements of the valve events. I don't really know how big the stick is, but I'm sure it's in the high 240s on the int, and mid 250s on the exhaust?
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
We are going to go tighter than 112 and feel very confident in our choice. This G5X3 cam is so smooth and has gobs of torque down low it still amazes me. I can harldy wait to see how this next cam works. We should have some numbers late this week if everything goes well. Stay tuned. I will post all 3 dyno numbers on top of each other for you guys to compare.
sweet, let ous know.
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Originally Posted by JPH
for me, the amount of overlap the cam will have, and placements of the valve events. I don't really know how big the stick is, but I'm sure it's in the high 240s on the int, and mid 250s on the exhaust?


Don't want to give out too much but that size is not in the ballpark.


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