445rwhp 430rwtq N/A 408Ci how bad are these numbers??
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445rwhp 430rwtq N/A 408Ci how bad are these numbers??
I'm posting this for a friend he just dynoed his car last night.
Car is 01 LuminaSS A4 (Sedan GTO Here in Middel East)
6.0 LQ9 Iron Block Bored .030
Eagle Crankshaft.
Diamond Piston -10cc.
Scat Connectting Rods.
Clevite Main & Rod bearing.
TSP Ported Oil pump.
TR Trex 242/248 611 620 110lsa with all valvetrain.
PRC LS6 Stg 2.5 Heads Milled to 62cc
Compresstion is around 11:1
Stock A4 (Slipping).
stock rear & gears.
Sureflow headers (very small)
2.5 ORX into 2.5 Magnaflow.
Stock TB.
LS6 Intake
K & N Filter
ASP Pulley.
Stock MAF
stock water pump.
Tuned by HP Tuner.
Best numbers were 445rwhp 430rwtq SAE With 29dgrees of timing.
Sorry dont have a gragh
Here is gragh for 441hp 425tq sorry a littel blurry
So how bad is these numbers???
Now the owner is Getting:
KOOKS 1 7/8 LT Headers and 3inch ORX.
Ported FAST 92 Intake and 92 TB From VENGEANCE Racing.
And I will be talking to PatrickG About a diffrent cam for the setup.
I told him after these mods the car will be somewhere between
480-490rwhp & 460-470rwtq
Is that Possible???
All comments are welcome
Thanks in advance.
Car is 01 LuminaSS A4 (Sedan GTO Here in Middel East)
6.0 LQ9 Iron Block Bored .030
Eagle Crankshaft.
Diamond Piston -10cc.
Scat Connectting Rods.
Clevite Main & Rod bearing.
TSP Ported Oil pump.
TR Trex 242/248 611 620 110lsa with all valvetrain.
PRC LS6 Stg 2.5 Heads Milled to 62cc
Compresstion is around 11:1
Stock A4 (Slipping).
stock rear & gears.
Sureflow headers (very small)
2.5 ORX into 2.5 Magnaflow.
Stock TB.
LS6 Intake
K & N Filter
ASP Pulley.
Stock MAF
stock water pump.
Tuned by HP Tuner.
Best numbers were 445rwhp 430rwtq SAE With 29dgrees of timing.
Sorry dont have a gragh
Here is gragh for 441hp 425tq sorry a littel blurry
So how bad is these numbers???
Now the owner is Getting:
KOOKS 1 7/8 LT Headers and 3inch ORX.
Ported FAST 92 Intake and 92 TB From VENGEANCE Racing.
And I will be talking to PatrickG About a diffrent cam for the setup.
I told him after these mods the car will be somewhere between
480-490rwhp & 460-470rwtq
Is that Possible???
All comments are welcome
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by venom ws7; 03-30-2008 at 12:09 PM.
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Not bad at all through an auto. I would definitely address the transmission issues first. You could be leaving some power on the table there. Adding more power before that issue is addressed could cost you more money in the long run. If I were were your friend, I would talk directly to a cam company. They are the true experts and ultimately do the grinding. Cut out the middle man and tell him to learn about his combo instead of having someone for it for him. Those cylinder heads leave alot to be desired also. TFS215's or AFR 225's would help make it easier to attain his goal. Good Luck.
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Considering the trans was slipping I'd say those numbers are off, or better yet completely inaccurate. Get your trans issue fixed with a built trans, level IV most likely to handle all that torque and then redyno. If you want more power a ported 92 mm FAST is probably the way to go with a 95 mm TB from Ron at Vengeance. He's pushing the envelope on the new FAST and larger tb. Tony Mamo would be another expert to consult. He does excellent work porting the FAST. Since you have a 408 you'd see a lot more benefit from the additional cfms then us little 346's. Good luck, hope everything goes well.
One last time, upgrade the trans before you try to make more power. Good luck.
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Not bad at all through an auto. I would definitely address the transmission issues first. You could be leaving some power on the table there. Adding more power before that issue is addressed could cost you more money in the long run. If I were were your friend, I would talk directly to a cam company. They are the true experts and ultimately do the grinding. Cut out the middle man and tell him to learn about his combo instead of having someone for it for him. Those cylinder heads leave alot to be desired also. TFS215's or AFR 225's would help make it easier to attain his goal. Good Luck.
The PRC Heads are awesome for the price it will cost a lot of money to buy
AFR/TFS and ship it Overseas I'm very sure with the mods he is getting he will
be even more happy.
have a lot left on the table.
Considering the trans was slipping I'd say those numbers are off, or better yet completely inaccurate. Get your trans issue fixed with a built trans, level IV most likely to handle all that torque and then redyno. If you want more power a ported 92 mm FAST is probably the way to go with a 95 mm TB from Ron at Vengeance. He's pushing the envelope on the new FAST and larger tb. Tony Mamo would be another expert to consult. He does excellent work porting the FAST. Since you have a 408 you'd see a lot more benefit from the additional cfms then us little 346's. Good luck, hope everything goes well.
One last time, upgrade the trans before you try to make more power. Good luck.
One last time, upgrade the trans before you try to make more power. Good luck.
and yes I will let either Tony or Vengeance do the port both do an amazing work and I'm sure that this will let 408ci breath a littel.
overall he is happy with the numbers.
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Now the owner is Getting:
KOOKS 1 7/8 LT Headers and 3inch ORX.
Ported FAST 92 Intake and 92 TB From VENGEANCE Racing.
And I will be talking to PatrickG About a diffrent cam for the setup.
I told him after these mods the car will be somewhere between
480-490rwhp & 460-470rwtq
Is that Possible???
All comments are welcome
Thanks in advance.
KOOKS 1 7/8 LT Headers and 3inch ORX.
Ported FAST 92 Intake and 92 TB From VENGEANCE Racing.
And I will be talking to PatrickG About a diffrent cam for the setup.
I told him after these mods the car will be somewhere between
480-490rwhp & 460-470rwtq
Is that Possible???
All comments are welcome
Thanks in advance.
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thanks.
I think those numbers are possible by just addressing the intake, exhaust, and transmission. Sure the heads and cam may not be ideal, but they'll work well enough to make another 40+ whp by letting that engine breathe better. No need to spend money when it's not necessary. I would leave the heads and cam in unless its still low on power after addressing the above mentioned items.
Thanks
I Hope Someone will look at the gragh and tell us what does the car needs
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yes but this car has a bad trans also. what is the full mod list on that car ? remember this car has headers that are small and a restrictive intake system and also ran on a DIFFERENT DYNO.numbers can vary from dyno to dyno. with a good intake setup and exhaust and the trans fixed this setup should be in that neighborhood also.
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But all cars are diffrent from each other like Slow trap say
What is CR?? Intake ?? exhaust setup??
and its not mine
yes but this car has a bad trans also. what is the full mod list on that car ? remember this car has headers that are small and a restrictive intake system and also ran on a DIFFERENT DYNO.numbers can vary from dyno to dyno. with a good intake setup and exhaust and the trans fixed this setup should be in that neighborhood also.
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The graph doesnt look like the trans was slipping. At least on that run.
You may want to have them print on over time, or over speed, or both. That will tell you more if the trans was slipping or not.
The intake and stock throttle body are probably killin it more than any other single part. A 90/90 set up would probably make big power on that thing.
You may want to have them print on over time, or over speed, or both. That will tell you more if the trans was slipping or not.
The intake and stock throttle body are probably killin it more than any other single part. A 90/90 set up would probably make big power on that thing.
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The graph doesnt look like the trans was slipping. At least on that run.
You may want to have them print on over time, or over speed, or both. That will tell you more if the trans was slipping or not.
The intake and stock throttle body are probably killin it more than any other single part. A 90/90 set up would probably make big power on that thing.
You may want to have them print on over time, or over speed, or both. That will tell you more if the trans was slipping or not.
The intake and stock throttle body are probably killin it more than any other single part. A 90/90 set up would probably make big power on that thing.
Yeah that run and the 445rwhp run we let the car cool down for 15min before the runs the run when the trans slipped the car made 430rwhp If I
remember correctly.
I'm with you the Intake and tb will make huge diffrence for sure he is rebuilding his trans and I will make the order for Ported 92 fast Intake and tb
too bad it will take over 3 weeks for them to arrive here since I'm overseas
390rwhp 387rwtq now 55hp 43tq More
Thanks.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/894142-408-w-dart-225-s-a4.html
Better ported heads.
Cam well speced for the combo.
PORTED 90 FAST Setup.
85mm MAF
1 7/8 ARH Headers.
Better flowing Exhaust.
I'm not shocked that car made better numbers than this.