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Old 04-30-2009, 07:55 PM
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My uncle has a new gt500 with 3.73s, pulley, and a tune. With my mods in sig, how bad will I lose? I'm sure his mustang weighs a good 400 pounds more than my car does. I have nittos that should be here in a week. He is running 19s with 295 tires. I was thinking about going from a slow roll, maybe 30-40, and him winning by 2 cars by 120 or so. What do you think the outcome may be?
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Don't count on him winning. They are not fast for what you think they are. Since your cammed with 4.10s I really wouldn't put it passed you that you would win. They are heavy as ****, they run high 12s and some in the 13s depending on driver. You have my vote by 2+ cars on that one.
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Don't count on him winning. They are not fast for what you think they are. Since your cammed with 4.10s I really wouldn't put it passed you that you would win. They are heavy as ****, they run high 12s and some in the 13s depending on driver. You have my vote by 2+ cars on that one.
When I saw your sig, I remembered me telling you that I could buy a set of wheels for the price of your hawk wheels. Meant no disrespect. You asked why no one even made an offer. I was expecting you to bash my thread lol.

He has over 100+ hp/tq than I do. Me by 2 cars is going to be tough I think.
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Originally Posted by BlkBird2000
I was thinking about going from a slow roll, maybe 30-40, and him winning by 2 cars by 120 or so.
I think that sounds reasonable and nothing to be ashamed of. He does have a lot of power over you but that doesn't mean **** when it's in a heavy *** car. Try to go from 50-60 to give you a better chance.
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Originally Posted by fccs
Don't count on him winning. They are not fast for what you think they are. Since your cammed with 4.10s I really wouldn't put it passed you that you would win. They are heavy as ****, they run high 12s and some in the 13s depending on driver. You have my vote by 2+ cars on that one.


I cant beleive in saying this but a gt500 with a pulley and a tune will be no slouch...Run from a dig if you want to have a better chance.
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Originally Posted by fccs
Don't count on him winning. They are not fast for what you think they are. Since your cammed with 4.10s I really wouldn't put it passed you that you would win. They are heavy as ****, they run high 12s and some in the 13s depending on driver. You have my vote by 2+ cars on that one.
pssst.....do not speak of what you do not know.


OP pending on his boost and tune and both of your driving, I'd say your guesstimate is pretty close to what i'd think.
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Originally Posted by 99_Z28
I cant beleive in saying this but a gt500 with a pulley and a tune will be no slouch...Run from a dig if you want to have a better chance.
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OP pending on his boost and tune and both of your driving, I'd say your guesstimate is pretty close to what i'd think.
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From a dig is really gunna be your only chance if he is on street tires. get a 2 car jump on his *** and it might end being even around 115 or so, but from a roll i have a feeling he might pull more than just 2 cars on you.
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Yea was pretty certain my guess would be about right. I've driven with him before. He shifts slow. There is about a 1 second between his shifts.
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Originally Posted by BlkBird2000
Yea was pretty certain my guess would be about right. I've driven with him before. He shifts slow. There is about a 1 second between his shifts.
Well **** then def do a dig and by the time he has had to shift 3 times that should be a good 3 seconds plus if you out launch him it should def be your win up to about 115-120, but i'd expect him to come flying around you at anypoint then.
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Originally Posted by BlkBird2000
When I saw your sig, I remembered me telling you that I could buy a set of wheels for the price of your hawk wheels. Meant no disrespect. You asked why no one even made an offer. I was expecting you to bash my thread lol.

He has over 100+ hp/tq than I do. Me by 2 cars is going to be tough I think.
I have seen acouple dyno only around 415-435 to the wheels. So he proable dont have a full 100whp on you but I agree it will be really close pending on drivers. Let us know what happens
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Originally Posted by ds98formula
I have seen acouple dyno only around 415-435 to the wheels. So he proable dont have a full 100whp on you but I agree it will be really close pending on drivers. Let us know what happens
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Originally Posted by ds98formula
I have seen acouple dyno only around 415-435 to the wheels. So he proable dont have a full 100whp on you but I agree it will be really close pending on drivers. Let us know what happens
He has intake, 3.73s, smaller pulley and a tune. From all the videos on youtube, he should be at or about 500/500.
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Originally Posted by BlkBird2000
My uncle has a new gt500 with 3.73s, pulley, and a tune. With my mods in sig, how bad will I lose? I'm sure his mustang weighs a good 400 pounds more than my car does. I have nittos that should be here in a week. He is running 19s with 295 tires. I was thinking about going from a slow roll, maybe 30-40, and him winning by 2 cars by 120 or so. What do you think the outcome may be?
Sorry totally skiped over the pulley part and intake wasnot in the first post so I did not know it had an intake. So then yeah 100hp over yours sounds about right.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
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Yeah i missed the pulley and wasnt informed of the intake So where is my info wrong then? There are many that dyno at just 415-435whp I know you know what you are talking about, and I love reading your posts for info and entertainment but wow somtimes you come off as a jerk. However if I am missed informed witch I may be please educate me
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It will be a damn good race if he can hook. He should be ahead 2-3 cars by 125
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Originally Posted by ds98formula
Yeah i missed the pulley and wasnt informed of the intake So where is my info wrong then? There are many that dyno at just 415-435whp I know you know what you are talking about, and I love reading your posts for info and entertainment but wow somtimes you come off as a jerk. However if I am missed informed witch I may be please educate me
lol yes he does, but i think he gets off on it man. i have learned to live with it.
and like you said he knows his **** too. so what can u do but take what he says with a grain of salt
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Originally Posted by the jester 812
lol yes he does, but i think he gets off on it man. i have learned to live with it.
and like you said he knows his **** too. so what can u do but take what he says with a grain of salt

Indeed but at least he and someothers are here to keep bad info out
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Originally Posted by ds98formula
Sorry totally skiped over the pulley part and intake wasnot in the first post so I did not know it had an intake. So then yeah 100hp over yours sounds about right.
I forgot to add that the pulley kit came with a cai. Oh well. It's not a major mod anyways.
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Originally Posted by the jester 812
lol yes he does, but i think he gets off on it man. i have learned to live with it.
and like you said he knows his **** too. so what can u do but take what he says with a grain of salt
Originally Posted by ds98formula
Indeed but at least he and someothers are here to keep bad info out
Thanks guys....I'll take that as a compliment........I guess. LOL

Yes, I can be an ***, I know that.......I just get tired of hte same old Ignorant know it all bullshit......so, sorry.
Originally Posted by BlkBird2000
I forgot to add that the pulley kit came with a cai. Oh well. It's not a major mod anyways.
On FI it is. 20-25rwhp with CAI/tune.


And FTR I've seen dyno's anywhere from 415-460rwhp stock.....the problem is the lower numbers are from 'improper' break in. Typically once the car gets some miles and 'properly' wakes up...it'll be roughly 435-450rwhp pending day and time and operator. ....operator..that was funnae.


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