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Old 02-13-2009, 11:47 AM
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http://www.wbur.org/news/2009/83078_20090209.asp

not only is the governor trying to get a 27cent increase on the gas tax during tough economic times, he also wants to start putting 'tracking devices' inside your registration sticker to tax you on how many miles you drive.

the funny thing is, the state already logs your mileage when you get your state inspection done... they even provide this information to your insurance company to make sure you dont get any low mileage discounts that you dont deserve. why cant they just use the existing mileage logging? looks like they want to track more than just mileage
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A simple magnet taped to the back of the device that they want to use will kill that. And if you want to get the low mileage discount, there's an easy way to do that too... it's called unplug the ODO, problem solved
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Either way, it's just getting worse and worse.

Heading for the hills of Northern Maine just may not be as kooky as it sounds.
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I am thinking sales tax free NH is sounding better and better. I would be close to the track too. Mr Patrick is a real piece of work isnt he. Lets raise the gas tax so the price of EVERYTHING goes up. Think about it everything you buy gets moved by fuel (Trains, Trucks, Cars) so the more it costs to move it the more it costs to buy it. I could go on for ever about him.
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******* Bullshit, those slimey liberal socialist mother F'ers!!!

Freedom is going to hell in a handbag.
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We've got to get rid of Patrick in Ma. Like I said, give him a big Federal job, like straightening out the salmonella-breeding peanut factory down in Georgia. WJ
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wtf damn taxachusetts! a gas tax would be uber ghey, did they have their heads buried in the sand when everyone was bitching about high gas prices this summer? im afraid its only going to be a matter of time till the prices are back up there to and then they want to add another 27cents on top of that?? wtF! theres gotta be an online petition or somin against this, or atleast there should be!
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**** you think that's bad. He's just swinging off the nutz of Obama. Look at this crap.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/economy/wm2276.cfm

Spread the wealth bullshit will put our country in the hole even more. Welfare should be abolished.

You don't work you don't eat.
Why do I gotta bust my *** at work and pay rediculious taxes so some reject can get free money, healthcare, residence, subsidized everything...

Atleast I can say I didn't vote for any of this.
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
**** you think that's bad. He's just swinging off the nutz of Obama. Look at this crap.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/economy/wm2276.cfm

Spread the wealth bullshit will put our country in the hole even more. Welfare should be abolished.

You don't work you don't eat.
Why do I gotta bust my *** at work and pay rediculious taxes so some reject can get free money, healthcare, residence, subsidized everything...

Atleast I can say I didn't vote for any of this.
LOL Don't hold anything back now Dan!
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Originally Posted by 2002_z28_m6
I am thinking sales tax free NH is sounding better and better. I would be close to the track too. Mr Patrick is a real piece of work isnt he. Lets raise the gas tax so the price of EVERYTHING goes up. Think about it everything you buy gets moved by fuel (Trains, Trucks, Cars) so the more it costs to move it the more it costs to buy it. I could go on for ever about him.
All the liberal Ma. people have been moving here over the years, NH now has a liberal base
Don't you know our new administration moto!

Do as i say not as i do
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Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
http://www.wbur.org/news/2009/83078_20090209.asp

not only is the governor trying to get a 27cent increase on the gas tax during tough economic times, he also wants to start putting 'tracking devices' inside your registration sticker to tax you on how many miles you drive.

the funny thing is, the state already logs your mileage when you get your state inspection done... they even provide this information to your insurance company to make sure you dont get any low mileage discounts that you dont deserve. why cant they just use the existing mileage logging? looks like they want to track more than just mileage
It would be a good thing if it allowed them to get rid of tolls and the Pike authority all together. Those ******* are in a huge financial hole due to their inefficiency and outright thievery. Fire them all!
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
It would be a good thing if it allowed them to get rid of tolls and the Pike authority all together. Those ******* are in a huge financial hole due to their inefficiency and outright thievery. Fire them all!
That is what they say to lure everyone into buying into this stupid tax. The reality is they will not abolish the tolls or get rid of the pike authority. As sson as they have the money coming in from both avenues they will realize they can spend it on more stupid **** and will just keep both of them.

When is the stupid government going to realize that you can cut spending to make up for a budget deficet as well??!?!?!

EX:
If you make 1000/week, your expenses are 500/week. You now have 500/week in dicretionary money available. This means you can spend 500 on whatever you want, you wouldn't go out and spend 2000 dollars because you have 500 dollars!!

The government does that very thing though. Lets Increase welfare spending 30% even though we are already in the hole by 20%, we'll just tax increase they working class another 10% and still be in the hole 40%...............STUPID MORONS!!!!!!

Sorry my rant is done...
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
It would be a good thing if it allowed them to get rid of tolls and the Pike authority all together. Those ******* are in a huge financial hole due to their inefficiency and outright thievery. Fire them all!
they want to use the tracking devices instead of toll booths... doesnt that get accomplished by the current ez-pass system?

i say get rid of the pike authority and make it a 'regular' highway. if you read the entire article, they say that they have to raise the taxes because of the 'cost of going green'. since people are driving less, the state is getting less money to maintain the roads... well if people are driving less, arent the roads getting proportionately less wear and tear?!?

MA also needs to put a stop to police detail on highway construction... just like the other 49 states.


guys... Dallas has one of the most stable housing and job markets in the nation. you seriously should consider it. I bought an 1850sq ft house 15mi from downtown dallas for $120k two years ago. at that time, an equilavent house in Danvers, MA was going for $450k.

...and you can drive your car year round down here
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Boy am I glad I moved down here to Florida. No inpection stickers, no state income tax. And things are way more layed back down here.
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When is the stupid government going to realize that you can cut spending to make up for a budget deficet as well??!?!?!

EX:
If you make 1000/week, your expenses are 500/week. You now have 500/week in dicretionary money available. This means you can spend 500 on whatever you want, you wouldn't go out and spend 2000 dollars because you have 500 dollars!!

The government does that very thing though. Lets Increase welfare spending 30% even though we are already in the hole by 20%, we'll just tax increase they working class another 10% and still be in the hole 40%...............STUPID MORONS!!!!!!

Sorry my rant is done...[/quote]

I like the idea but you guys are looking at it wrong. Over the last two years and for another year or two unemployment rates have and will go up. There has been no increase for government spending for the unemployed, including welfare. This means that while the amount of money supplied goes down (fewer people working), the amount of americans who can't find a job because the economy if f-ed goes up. Then since you did not set money aside for these people you are giving them money that the government does not have. By doing this you sink more into the red, and do I have to remind you that we are in a massive debt.

Bush screwed us, he didn't have a republican plan or democratic plan... he had no plan. He didn't even have a clue. He just spent and spent on anything that came across his desk. McCain lost the election because Bush was titled a Republican when in reality Bush was just slime. Hope that Obama is not of the same ilk and don't condemn a man who has not even been given the chance to fail or succeed. Let's hope this guy can do some good while in office.
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Bush screwed us, he didn't have a republican plan or democratic plan... he had no plan. He didn't even have a clue. He just spent and spent on anything that came across his desk. McCain lost the election because Bush was titled a Republican when in reality Bush was just slime. Hope that Obama is not of the same ilk and don't condemn a man who has not even been given the chance to fail or succeed. Let's hope this guy can do some good while in office.[/QUOTE]

Obama already F/U, he passed a spending bill not a stimulas plan
More then 90% of the bill was for entitlement programs...this so called stimulas plan was pay back to all the people and programs that got him elected! As far as i'm concerned, ALL politicians are in it for themselves or their party, and not for the good of the Country We need to wake up as citizens and make changes to our Goverment (both parties).....because we have the fox watching the hen house!
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Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
they want to use the tracking devices instead of toll booths... doesnt that get accomplished by the current ez-pass system?

i say get rid of the pike authority and make it a 'regular' highway. if you read the entire article, they say that they have to raise the taxes because of the 'cost of going green'. since people are driving less, the state is getting less money to maintain the roads... well if people are driving less, arent the roads getting proportionately less wear and tear?!?

MA also needs to put a stop to police detail on highway construction... just like the other 49 states.


guys... Dallas has one of the most stable housing and job markets in the nation. you seriously should consider it. I bought an 1850sq ft house 15mi from downtown dallas for $120k two years ago. at that time, an equilavent house in Danvers, MA was going for $450k.

...and you can drive your car year round down here
The easy pass only charges folks that drive through a toll gate. The new monitoring system would charge everyone that drives! Plus, it would eliminate lots of toll takers and those dogs(mostly lazy people with connections) make like $25hour with full bennies and 258 paid holidays per year.
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I say we exercise our second amendment rights, and form us some militias, take on the govermnet as we see fit. Afterall, that IS the purpose of the 2nd amendment..
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ALL politicians are in it for themselves or their party, and not for the good of the Country We need to wake up as citizens and make changes to our Goverment (both parties).....because we have the fox watching the hen house![/quote]

I must agree with that, every politician is corrupt no matter the party or even independant. If I lived in MA I would fight the taxation of mileage driven tooth and nail... It's total bullshit.
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
The easy pass only charges folks that drive through a toll gate. The new monitoring system would charge everyone that drives! Plus, it would eliminate lots of toll takers and those dogs(mostly lazy people with connections) make like $25hour with full bennies and 258 paid holidays per year.
in NJ, you can drive through the EZ-Pass gate at full highway speed. No reason they cant make it across the entire road if need be. and in Dallas, there is a toll road, that if you dont have an EZ-Pass and try to go through the EZ-Pass lane, it photographs your plate and mails you the bill... note: not a fine, just the bill for the toll.

Originally Posted by Smokeshow_2006
I say we exercise our second amendment rights, and form us some militias, take on the govermnet as we see fit. Afterall, that IS the purpose of the 2nd amendment..
keep in mind, that at the t ime of the revolution, both general civilians and the british military both had the same level of weapons... muskets! And military tactics were so simple back then, that the civilians were able to create their own military that was just as effective as the british military.

does anyone have an M1 Abrams or an F-16 handy to start a militia with? cuz we need a few dozen of those to stand a chance at overthrowing the gov't.



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