The General has gone rice.. repeat.. GM has gone rice.
is still better than the typical 
then i dont care 
07-16-2005, 03:56 AM
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It's really great how you can buy a Cavalier or one of these Cobalt "SS"'s with 2.0L of fury and GM even provides you with a "Tuner Garage" and "Race Shop". Meanwhile those of us with LS1's are reduced to just poking fun at them on Internet message boards. Thanks, General. 
Don't worry, we'll all still be here when you build us a real car.
Don't worry, we'll all still be here when you build us a real car. 
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07-16-2005, 11:27 AM
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You took the words out of my mouth F-Bobby. Can you imagine how cool it would have been to have factory backed mods for our cars like the mustang guys have?
****, a mustang guy can choose from Rousch (sp?), SVT, Saleen. All we ever got was SLP over charging us for outrageous claims (did anyone ever get 50hp from their headers???)
I'm happy to see that the General is at least putting forth an effort. It looks like they are trying with the GTO-R. How cool would it have been to have a T/A-R, WS6-R or SS-R like the C5-R?
Would've, could've should've.....
****, a mustang guy can choose from Rousch (sp?), SVT, Saleen. All we ever got was SLP over charging us for outrageous claims (did anyone ever get 50hp from their headers???)
I'm happy to see that the General is at least putting forth an effort. It looks like they are trying with the GTO-R. How cool would it have been to have a T/A-R, WS6-R or SS-R like the C5-R?
Would've, could've should've.....
07-16-2005, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
You took the words out of my mouth F-Bobby. Can you imagine how cool it would have been to have factory backed mods for our cars like the mustang guys have?
****, a mustang guy can choose from Rousch (sp?), SVT, Saleen. All we ever got was SLP over charging us for outrageous claims (did anyone ever get 50hp from their headers???)
I'm happy to see that the General is at least putting forth an effort. It looks like they are trying with the GTO-R. How cool would it have been to have a T/A-R, WS6-R or SS-R like the C5-R?
Would've, could've should've.....
****, a mustang guy can choose from Rousch (sp?), SVT, Saleen. All we ever got was SLP over charging us for outrageous claims (did anyone ever get 50hp from their headers???)
I'm happy to see that the General is at least putting forth an effort. It looks like they are trying with the GTO-R. How cool would it have been to have a T/A-R, WS6-R or SS-R like the C5-R?
Would've, could've should've.....
sheeeeet! Look at how well Dodge supports the SRT4....
07-16-2005, 03:04 PM
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I think its a good indication of whats to come from GM. They are actually getting back to being more enthusiast friendly. The F-bods sales were terrible. The Cobalt (even in a regular coupe) fly outta here. They are supporting the buyers. I will be interested in seeing what they do with Z06 owners. I had heard rumours they wouldnt void warranty for taking a stock car down the track, but who knows....
07-17-2005, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBird
It's really great how you can buy a Cavalier or one of these Cobalt "SS"'s with 2.0L of fury and GM even provides you with a "Tuner Garage" and "Race Shop". Meanwhile those of us with LS1's are reduced to just poking fun at them on Internet message boards. Thanks, General. Don't worry, we'll all still be here when you build us a real car.
Don't worry, we'll all still be here when you build us a real car.They can spit out a new TA and unless it's gawd's-gift, no more of my money will go to GM and I've had all generations of F-bodies.
07-17-2005, 10:47 AM
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It's pretty simple math. The cars in that market so more people can afford them. Now, you take that fact and stack it along side the statistic of "10 years ago people spent an average of 1000-1500 on customizing their vehicles. Today it's closer to 10 to 15 THOUSAND."
Toyota struck GOLD with their Scion marketing plan. Sell the cars cheap and with a few factory options. (power windows, power locks, etc...) and provide them with aftermarket parts they can buy at the point of vehicle sale and include it in the financing.
Do you guys have any idea how much they're making this way?
Millions.
Say what you want but they sell cars like this because people, LOTS of people, are buying them. Just because we're the minority (relative term in the car business since there are a ton of us) doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
Personally, I'm not so closed minded I can't look at an "Import Market" car that's well done and not like it. As with anything else if it's a nice car I dig it. If it's overdone and tacky I don't.
I'm pretty simple that way.
Alan
Toyota struck GOLD with their Scion marketing plan. Sell the cars cheap and with a few factory options. (power windows, power locks, etc...) and provide them with aftermarket parts they can buy at the point of vehicle sale and include it in the financing.
Do you guys have any idea how much they're making this way?
Millions.
Say what you want but they sell cars like this because people, LOTS of people, are buying them. Just because we're the minority (relative term in the car business since there are a ton of us) doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
Personally, I'm not so closed minded I can't look at an "Import Market" car that's well done and not like it. As with anything else if it's a nice car I dig it. If it's overdone and tacky I don't.
I'm pretty simple that way.
Alan
07-18-2005, 03:05 PM
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GM cant ever be "rice", for obvious reasons.
i'm with others that would rather see GM make some good money building decent, fun, fast little fwd cars, that sit on thier laurels (which aint gonna help) and go under for good. fwd cars saved Mopar, there would not be a Viper or a lineup of Hemi powered cars and trucks werre it not for the saving cash flow fwd cars provided to Mopar 20+ years ago.
how are we all gonna get our coveted factory 11 second next Gen f-bodies if GM goes the way of Braniff Airlines? let 'em manufacture and sell fwd, rwd will see the benefit.
the Cobalt is not rice.
i'm with others that would rather see GM make some good money building decent, fun, fast little fwd cars, that sit on thier laurels (which aint gonna help) and go under for good. fwd cars saved Mopar, there would not be a Viper or a lineup of Hemi powered cars and trucks werre it not for the saving cash flow fwd cars provided to Mopar 20+ years ago.
how are we all gonna get our coveted factory 11 second next Gen f-bodies if GM goes the way of Braniff Airlines? let 'em manufacture and sell fwd, rwd will see the benefit.
the Cobalt is not rice.
