Soprano's---WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Supposedly, the writer intended for the blank screen to indicate Tony getting shot. He kept referring back to the scene with Tony and Bobby on the boat talking about getting shot and that you never hear it, that everything just goes black.
That final scene is all from Tony's perspective, and supposedly it showed how paranoid he was. Anyone in that diner could have shot him, possibly the guy who was at the counter and walked into the bathroom.
Who knows. Just goes to show what we think doesn't matter.
That final scene is all from Tony's perspective, and supposedly it showed how paranoid he was. Anyone in that diner could have shot him, possibly the guy who was at the counter and walked into the bathroom.
Who knows. Just goes to show what we think doesn't matter.
Originally Posted by Van5150
I mmm,.,. yelled at my wife, I swore up and down she was sitting on the remote. I felt bad afterwards., but felt better today when i canceled my HBO,.,.
that's funny, because I just changed cable providers ( went crom comcast to dish network, saved about 50 bucks a month ) and the one thign I made dish network do was throw HBO in for free for a month so I could watch the end of the soprano's.... now that it's over I have zero use or HBO, and will cancel it when they call and ask if I want to keep it or not.
Originally Posted by JL ws-6
that's funny, because I just changed cable providers ( went crom comcast to dish network, saved about 50 bucks a month ) and the one thign I made dish network do was throw HBO in for free for a month so I could watch the end of the soprano's.... now that it's over I have zero use or HBO, and will cancel it when they call and ask if I want to keep it or not.
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Yeah Chef I heard the same thing that they have a DVD with like 5 alternate endings.
I too noticed that Tony was wearing different clothes when he was sitting. At first I thought he was dreaming too then I got confused when Carmella came in and AJ so I didnt know what to think. I still dont like the ending I watched every episode and wanted to see how David Chase envisioned ending the Saga. By showing nothing it irritated me and I guarantee you Martin Scorsese would not have ended it that way lol.
I love the Wire and enjoy Entourage too so I will be keeping my HBO for a while.
I too noticed that Tony was wearing different clothes when he was sitting. At first I thought he was dreaming too then I got confused when Carmella came in and AJ so I didnt know what to think. I still dont like the ending I watched every episode and wanted to see how David Chase envisioned ending the Saga. By showing nothing it irritated me and I guarantee you Martin Scorsese would not have ended it that way lol.
I love the Wire and enjoy Entourage too so I will be keeping my HBO for a while.
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Ending SUCKED. I agree that since season 2 Sopranos really went downhill. I'm not interested in anything Sopranos anymore, David Chase can take his movie, box sets, and reruns and shoved it up his ***.
Long live Entourage, and The Wire!!
Long live Entourage, and The Wire!!
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regarding the clothes... it was the same shirt the jacket blocked the black collar.... check it out with the DVR....
remember the show was always about tony.... so the black screen was his perspective... he got whacked....
the guy going into the bath room was credited as Nikki leatardo (sp?)....
the black guys were workers for the NY families...
and the boy scouts were indeed the same kids from the train store...
all this symbolism leads leads the viewer to the fact tony got whacked....
also Tony's dad got whacked while at a diner with his family with Janice walking in.... sound familiar
David Chase loves the symbolism.............
and yes i did take a film lit class in school lol
remember the show was always about tony.... so the black screen was his perspective... he got whacked....
the guy going into the bath room was credited as Nikki leatardo (sp?)....
the black guys were workers for the NY families...
and the boy scouts were indeed the same kids from the train store...
all this symbolism leads leads the viewer to the fact tony got whacked....
also Tony's dad got whacked while at a diner with his family with Janice walking in.... sound familiar
David Chase loves the symbolism.............
and yes i did take a film lit class in school lol
Staging Lane
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well, thanks guys.......you totally filled the void i had after i watched the last episode. I didn't catch any of those hints at the diner.....and I watched every episode since day 1! guess i'd never make it as a detective......good thing i'm an architect.
Originally Posted by greenherb
remember the show was always about tony.... so the black screen was his perspective... he got whacked....
the guy going into the bath room was credited as Nikki leatardo (sp?)....
the black guys were workers for the NY families...
and the boy scouts were indeed the same kids from the train store...
all this symbolism leads leads the viewer to the fact tony got whacked....
also Tony's dad got whacked while at a diner with his family with Janice walking in.... sound familiar
David Chase loves the symbolism.............
and yes i did take a film lit class in school lol
the guy going into the bath room was credited as Nikki leatardo (sp?)....
the black guys were workers for the NY families...
and the boy scouts were indeed the same kids from the train store...
all this symbolism leads leads the viewer to the fact tony got whacked....
also Tony's dad got whacked while at a diner with his family with Janice walking in.... sound familiar
David Chase loves the symbolism.............
and yes i did take a film lit class in school lol
The blackout/fade to black thing could definitely denote a shot to the head and the parallel between Meadow walking into the diner and Janice (I never knew about his father getting whacked in a diner while she was walking in) is awesome as well.
Interesting.
Originally Posted by Krazy98Z28
Best part of the whole episode was when they shot Phil, I was clapping and screaming lol I hate that mother ******.
Oh well. 
I hated him as far back as the movie Goodfellas when he played Billy Batts (got whacked BAD there as well LOL).
FWIW, the bathroom guy was not Nikki Leotardo. He was credited as "Man in Member's Only jacket". He had never appeared in any other episodes before.
The black guys didn't even notice Tony, and there's never been any history of them in the show working for New York.
And also, you're way off on Tony's father. He wasn't whacked, he died of Emphysema.
The black guys didn't even notice Tony, and there's never been any history of them in the show working for New York.
And also, you're way off on Tony's father. He wasn't whacked, he died of Emphysema.
I viewed it as Tonys constant "condition red" and I don't think he got whacked. Who would've known he was going to that little place for Onion Rings, etc.
The last episode showed how they can get you to the edge of your seat simply by panning around a camera.
I thought it was a brilliant series.. and having worked as an officer in FCI Danbury (where the "Goodfella's" did time) I can tell you the characters were realistic.
There *actually* was a hitman called "Gigi" and while I worked at Danbury, one of the inmates was New England crime boss Ray Patriacha, Jr:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Patriarca_Jr.
Most wiseguys were in the "North Unit's" which had their own washing machines and prized single cells.. along with thier own VCR and the unit often smelled of Italian food- sometimes cooked on upside-down irons.
They had thier own benches and even had a bocci ball courts.
FCI Danbury now houses only females.. last I heard.
The last episode showed how they can get you to the edge of your seat simply by panning around a camera.
I thought it was a brilliant series.. and having worked as an officer in FCI Danbury (where the "Goodfella's" did time) I can tell you the characters were realistic.
There *actually* was a hitman called "Gigi" and while I worked at Danbury, one of the inmates was New England crime boss Ray Patriacha, Jr:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Patriarca_Jr.
Most wiseguys were in the "North Unit's" which had their own washing machines and prized single cells.. along with thier own VCR and the unit often smelled of Italian food- sometimes cooked on upside-down irons.
They had thier own benches and even had a bocci ball courts.
FCI Danbury now houses only females.. last I heard.
Originally Posted by NHRATA01
FWIW, the bathroom guy was not Nikki Leotardo. He was credited as "Man in Member's Only jacket". He had never appeared in any other episodes before.
The black guys didn't even notice Tony, and there's never been any history of them in the show working for New York.
And also, you're way off on Tony's father. He wasn't whacked, he died of Emphysema.
The black guys didn't even notice Tony, and there's never been any history of them in the show working for New York.
And also, you're way off on Tony's father. He wasn't whacked, he died of Emphysema.
i agree completely.
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greenherb, you should go to a book store and read page 36 of "Entertainment Weekly". It lists theories and verdicts, some confirmed by HBO, which describe all your theories as incorrect.............for what its worth, you had ME convinced for a little while.
NHRATA01, its agrees with everything you said under one of the theories and was even confirmed by HBO......there were 7 theories listed total.
NHRATA01, its agrees with everything you said under one of the theories and was even confirmed by HBO......there were 7 theories listed total.
Originally Posted by NHRATA01
FWIW, the bathroom guy was not Nikki Leotardo. He was credited as "Man in Member's Only jacket". He had never appeared in any other episodes before.
The black guys didn't even notice Tony, and there's never been any history of them in the show working for New York.
And also, you're way off on Tony's father. He wasn't whacked, he died of Emphysema.
The black guys didn't even notice Tony, and there's never been any history of them in the show working for New York.
And also, you're way off on Tony's father. He wasn't whacked, he died of Emphysema.
Originally Posted by Mr. B
I viewed it as Tonys constant "condition red" and I don't think he got whacked. Who would've known he was going to that little place for Onion Rings, etc.
