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He made ~2100 HP with a SBC.
I'm sticking it on a 557" BBC, so I hope to make decent power once we learn the alcohol injection system??
Stealth, do you mean puke tanks for the blow by??
I don't think a PCV would do much on a boosted combo??
Plus I never do anything that contaminates the charge on a performance application!!
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He made ~2100 HP with a SBC.
I'm sticking it on a 557" BBC, so I hope to make decent power once we learn the alcohol injection system??
Stealth, do you mean puke tanks for the blow by??
I don't think a PCV would do much on a boosted combo??
Plus I never do anything that contaminates the charge on a performance application!!
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Under vacuum, the intake manifold is providing the vacuum to evacuate the crankcase via the PCV valve. The vacuum is also holding the check valve closed on the line headed to the blower inlet.
Under boost, the check valve on the intake manifold line is closed, and the vacuum from the blower inlet takes over to evacuate the crankcase.
Essentially, you're just switching back and forth between vacuum sources to prevent pressurizing the crankcase.
Be sure the line from the intake manifold to the can is dedicated! (Don't tee into another line). If you do this...whatever device/gauge you have on the same line will end up reading incorrectly. Lashway didn't know about this...I discovered it. Luckily, all I had hooked up to it was a boost gauge. If I had meth injection and went under boost like this...my meth never would have kicked in, and would have caused major issues.
There is also a way to use a standard 2-fitting can. All you do is put a tee on the vacuum side, and run those lines individually to the intake manifold and blower inlet. Use 1 diaphragm-type check valve for each line, and make sure they oppose each other (so when one is pulling vacuum, the other is closed, and vice-versa). I have not done this, but it will work in theory.
Hope this helps.
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f3 run i saw last week. he ended up going 4.47. smackin the nitrous guys asses. thing was the size of two f1-a's. the bracket looked like half the frame of an old cruiseship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWm3uvVIzD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWm3uvVIzD0
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It doesn't look like much by itself, but it is definitely bigger then my foot, as you can see??
I'm not trying to get after it this year, but I would like to get it finished and go testing as soon as possible.
I need to run 6.80's to guarantee I'll qualify 95% of the time.
Then I would like to try and do some 1/8th mile stuff, and shot for 4.10's in the 1/8th.
I don't think I can afford to go any quicker, even with a 3.99 being so close!!
I'm no expert, but I have been studying and asking a lot of guys,
and all but one said there is no reason to waste time on anything except a simple puke tank.
My plan is dual -12 lines from each valve cover to a small ventless can next to the fuel cell.
Then a 1 1/2" line to the main puke tank in the back under the wing with plenty of vents.
Now maybe it's because I'm at 2000 ish HP, but the experts I asked said a PCV, vac pump or evac system is not going to help??
Good luck.
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It doesn't look like much by itself, but it is definitely bigger then my foot, as you can see??
I'm not trying to get after it this year, but I would like to get it finished and go testing as soon as possible.
I need to run 6.80's to guarantee I'll qualify 95% of the time.
Then I would like to try and do some 1/8th mile stuff, and shot for 4.10's in the 1/8th.
I don't think I can afford to go any quicker, even with a 3.99 being so close!!
I'm no expert, but I have been studying and asking a lot of guys,
and all but one said there is no reason to waste time on anything except a simple puke tank.
My plan is dual -12 lines from each valve cover to a small ventless can next to the fuel cell.
Then a 1 1/2" line to the main puke tank in the back under the wing with plenty of vents.
Now maybe it's because I'm at 2000 ish HP, but the experts I asked said a PCV, vac pump or evac system is not going to help??
Good luck.
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I just got my car all back together with the aster bracket, def a nice piece. My question is what pullie combo do u think I be running to get 10psi on my P1sc-1 blower. I'm running the larger 7.65 crank pulley and a 3.7 blower and only seeing 5psi, any input would be nice. Also I still need to go over everything and check for boost leaks
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I just got my car all back together with the aster bracket, def a nice piece. My question is what pullie combo do u think I be running to get 10psi on my P1sc-1 blower. I'm running the larger 7.65 crank pulley and a 3.7 blower and only seeing 5psi, any input would be nice. Also I still need to go over everything and check for boost leaks
* Cubic inch. The larger the engine the less boost it will make with a supercharger.
* Headers and exhaust. A better flowing system will produce less boost, requires a smaller pulley to regain the loss in boost. Ultimately though, more power will be gained.
* Camshaft and heads. A camshaft with some overlap will leak out some boost through the valves. Better flowing heads react a lot like a better flowing exhaust system.
* Altitude. Elevation plays a big part in how much boost is produced. Those people living in the higher elevations have to spin the blower harder to see boost.
* Condition of engine. An engine with real good sealing rings will ultimately produce more boost than one with worn rings.
* Rpm. An engine that is spun up higher in the rpm range will normally produce more boost.
5 psi with the 3.70 pulley seems really low, but we really need more info to be able to help you out. Bob
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Hey Bob,
Are you guys more of a street type blower dealer, or do you also do stuff like mine also,
2000+ HP, alcohol, 16 injectors, 30-40 lbs of boost, etc etc??
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Hey Bob,
Are you guys more of a street type blower dealer, or do you also do stuff like mine also,
2000+ HP, alcohol, 16 injectors, 30-40 lbs of boost, etc etc??
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How much boost the blower can produce depends on many variables.
* Cubic inch. The larger the engine the less boost it will make with a supercharger.
* Headers and exhaust. A better flowing system will produce less boost, requires a smaller pulley to regain the loss in boost. Ultimately though, more power will be gained.
* Camshaft and heads. A camshaft with some overlap will leak out some boost through the valves. Better flowing heads react a lot like a better flowing exhaust system.
* Altitude. Elevation plays a big part in how much boost is produced. Those people living in the higher elevations have to spin the blower harder to see boost.
* Condition of engine. An engine with real good sealing rings will ultimately produce more boost than one with worn rings.
* Rpm. An engine that is spun up higher in the rpm range will normally produce more boost.
5 psi with the 3.70 pulley seems really low, but we really need more info to be able to help you out. Bob
* Cubic inch. The larger the engine the less boost it will make with a supercharger.
* Headers and exhaust. A better flowing system will produce less boost, requires a smaller pulley to regain the loss in boost. Ultimately though, more power will be gained.
* Camshaft and heads. A camshaft with some overlap will leak out some boost through the valves. Better flowing heads react a lot like a better flowing exhaust system.
* Altitude. Elevation plays a big part in how much boost is produced. Those people living in the higher elevations have to spin the blower harder to see boost.
* Condition of engine. An engine with real good sealing rings will ultimately produce more boost than one with worn rings.
* Rpm. An engine that is spun up higher in the rpm range will normally produce more boost.
5 psi with the 3.70 pulley seems really low, but we really need more info to be able to help you out. Bob
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I missed this post, sorry about that. I can make you a great deal on anything from ProCharger that you are looking for. Thanks! Bob
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I would be looking for a boost leak. You should be making more boost than that unless you're up in a higher elevation. Bob
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Just let me know what you need and I'll see what I can do to help you out. During the early Spring rush it can get pretty hectic for many of the performance companies. I have orders going out from ProCharger on a daily basis, and most of them get out the door right away. Thanks. Bob
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MSD Ignition Wires
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Five-O Injectors (factory Delphi Injectors Re-tooled And Flow Matched - 60 lbs/hr at 43.5 PSI, 625 cc/min at 3 BAR 64 lbs/hr at 50 PSI, 670 cc/min at 3.5 BAR, 69 lbs/hr at 58 PSI, 725 cc/min at 4 BAR
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Modified Fuel Tank for Return
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American Racing Ceramic Coated Headers - 1 7/8" Primaries, 3" Collectors,
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Corsa Sport 3" Cat Back Exhaust
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D1SC Procharger - Polished Finish
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Tial Q Series Blow Off Valve - Polished Finish
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Silicon Charge Boots & Hoses
Stainless T-Bolt Clamps
Polished Billet Aluminum Vented Oil Catch Can
Modifed Vented Oil Cap
PLX Devices Wideband
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Eaton True-Trac Rear Carrier
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Nitro Daves 78mm Plate
Custom Polished Hardline Stainless Nitrous/Fuel lines
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Trick Performance RPM Window Switch
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AutoMeter Electronic Nitrous Pressure Gauge
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Walbro 255 Fuel Pump Intank
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Corvette intermediate servo
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Borg Warner High Energy Green 3/4 Clutches
Rebestos blue overrun clutches and Koleen steels
Beast reaction shell
New reaction sun gear
GM rear 5 planetary gear set
Rear carrier ring gear
Thrust bearing kit
New upgraded babbot pump bushing
New case bushing
New extra wide sun gear bushing
Sonnax boost valve
Billet forward accumulator
Billet 1-2 accumulator
EPC Solenoid
Superier valve body shift correction kit
4L65-E overhaul kit(gaskets,seals, ect)
Updated valve body seperator plate
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RPM high-rev spring kit
Reman Oil Pump
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Drilled/Slotted Rotors
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Billet Grill
Front Chin Spoiler
Front Bumper Gap Mod
Billet Shopman1 Grill Bowtie
Painted Brake Ducts w/ Shopman1 Polished Overlays
EFX Custom Painted Cowl Hood
Smoked Tail & 3rd Brake Lenses
Sueded Door Panels
Rear Seat Removed
Custom Rear Seat Delete
Sueded Rear Cab Panel
Polished Halon Fire Extinguisher
Beg Rug
Denali Chrome Gauge Bezel
All White LED Interior Light Conversion
Silver SS Headrest Emblems
6.0 Badges (GTO) w/Chrome Overlays
Custom Steering Wheel Air Bag "SS" Emblem
Underhood "Mirrors"
Polished A/C Dryer and Lines
Polished Brake Lines
Polished Factory Valve Covers
Polished Factory Throttle Body
Polished Factory Water Pump
Polished Factory Timing Cover
Polished Custom HPM Aluminum Fan Shroud
Polished Stand Alone Fuel Cell
Polished Fuel Regulator for Nitrous
Polished Factory Alt/Power Steering Bracket
Polished Factory Belt Tensioner
Polished Dual Nitrous N20 Outlet Bottles
Polished Nitrous/Fuel N20 Outlet Solenoids
Polished Nitrous N20 outlet Filter
All Accessory Bolt Heads Polished
Chrome Factory 145amp Alternator
Chrome Factory Coil Brackets
Chrome Factory Coil Mounting Bolts
Custom Polished Stainless Coolant, Brake Resevoir Covers
Custom Polished Stainless Fuse Box and Battery Cover
Custom Polished Stainless Fluid Cover Caps
Custom Polished "SS" Stainless Headplate
Polished Factory Driveshaft
Custom Painted Factory Ignition Coils - Atomic Orange
******* Speedstur Tonneau Cover
BSER custom roll pan
Autometer Electronic Fuel Pressure Gauge
Autometer Electronic Boost Pressure Gauge
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Comp Custom Grind Cam - .228 .236 / .588 .601 @ 115
PAC Racing valve springs .650 lift
Comp Factory LS Rocker Trunnion Upgrade Kit - Full Roller
Texas Speed Hardened Pushrods
NGK TR6 Plugs
Pinned Crank Shaft
HPM Electric Cooling Fans w/ Custom Aluminum Shroud
MSD Ignition Wires
Fuel System
Five-O Injectors (factory Delphi Injectors Re-tooled And Flow Matched - 60 lbs/hr at 43.5 PSI, 625 cc/min at 3 BAR 64 lbs/hr at 50 PSI, 670 cc/min at 3.5 BAR, 69 lbs/hr at 58 PSI, 725 cc/min at 4 BAR
Bosch 044 Intank Fuel Pump - @ 72psi, 200LPH or 325.99 LB/HR
Wiring upgraded for Bosch Pump
Summit LS1 Billet Fuel Rails w/ Custom Built Manifold Mounting Brackets
Summit Fuel Pressure Regulator w/ Custom Polished Aluminum Mounting Bracket
All Custom Summit,Earls, & Russell Braided Lines and fittings
Modified Fuel Tank for Return
Exhaust
American Racing Ceramic Coated Headers - 1 7/8" Primaries, 3" Collectors,
3" Off Road Mid Pipes - Coated
Corsa Sport 3" Cat Back Exhaust
Blower System
D1SC Procharger - Polished Finish
3.90 Reichard Racing Polished Pully
Vibrant Intercooler - Polished Finish w/ Custom Mounting Brackets
Tial Q Series Blow Off Valve - Polished Finish
Custom Charge Air Piping - Polished Finish & Professionally TIG Welded
Silicon Charge Boots & Hoses
Stainless T-Bolt Clamps
Polished Billet Aluminum Vented Oil Catch Can
Modifed Vented Oil Cap
PLX Devices Wideband
Differential
T/A Rear End Girdle w/ ARP Studs and Nuts
Eaton True-Trac Rear Carrier
Nitrous:
Nitro Daves 78mm Plate
Custom Polished Hardline Stainless Nitrous/Fuel lines
Nitrous Outlet Polished and Custom Painted Nitrous/Fuel/Purge Solenoids (Atomic Orange)
Nitrous Outlet Polished Nitrous Filter
Nitrous Outlet Dual Polished 10# Bottles
Nitrous Outlet Dual Polished Blow Down Tubes
Nitrous Outlet 860 Billet Bottle Heaters/Brackets
Nitrous Outlet High Flow Bottle Valves
Nitrous Outlet Fuel Pressure Safety Switch
Trick Performance RPM Window Switch
Nitrous Outlet Silverado Switch Panel
AutoMeter Electronic Nitrous Pressure Gauge
Custom Built Polished Aluminum Stand Alone Fuel Cell
Polished Aeromotive Fuel Regulator
Chrome Summit Manual Fuel Pressure Gauge w/ Silver Face
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump Intank
All Russell and Earl's Fittings and Lines
Custom Dual Stainless Purge Lines
Transmission:
TCS Custom Billet 3400-3600 Converter
Tru-Cool 40k BTU Transmission Cooler
Corvette intermediate servo
Sonnax billet overdrive servo
Double cage 29 element forward sprag
Low/Reverse spring roller
Alto red low/reverse clutches and Koleen steels
Alto carbon oversized 2/4 power band w/ reinforced anchor
New input drum/housing
Borg Warner High Energy Green 3/4 Clutches
Rebestos blue overrun clutches and Koleen steels
Beast reaction shell
New reaction sun gear
GM rear 5 planetary gear set
Rear carrier ring gear
Thrust bearing kit
New upgraded babbot pump bushing
New case bushing
New extra wide sun gear bushing
Sonnax boost valve
Billet forward accumulator
Billet 1-2 accumulator
EPC Solenoid
Superier valve body shift correction kit
4L65-E overhaul kit(gaskets,seals, ect)
Updated valve body seperator plate
Billet 300m output shaft
Billet 300m input shaft
Billet input drum sleeve & piston
RPM high-rev spring kit
Reman Oil Pump
Modified case
Last edited by 2BFAST; 04-11-2012 at 10:11 AM.