dynoed tonight
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dynoed tonight well i dynoed the car tonight,and im not too happy,first off the best #s were 399 rwhp and 438 rwtq with boost drop off to 3 lbs at 4000 rpm,and to boot at 11 to 1 af and 14 degrees of timing,but my goddam b.o.v is staying open even after adjusting it so im sure with my luck i got stuck with the one out of 10,000 that was def.but anyway thats it in a nut shell,although i cant say enough about slowhawk and his tuning he did a great job,although the #s suck it looks like time for a boost controller and up it a bit. 
where is your wastegate signal from?if its on the turbo discharge move it to the intake.
the tune is also overly conservative, i'm sure you will pick up more ponies as you move toward optimum.
The tuning game better be one you learn to enjoy Greg. Your not the type to pay for a mod and just drive the car so your up to the task....from leaky connections, to waste gate springs to...welll everything else... I predict you find another 75 plus horses in short order. And more after that. Enjoy the climb and congrat on the install.
I'm still going through a slow grind and hoping i can make something fit that many (even the manufacturer) says won't. PS...Why do I always change my mind after the machine work is complete!
I'm still going through a slow grind and hoping i can make something fit that many (even the manufacturer) says won't. PS...Why do I always change my mind after the machine work is complete!
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its off the discharge tube,what will moving it to the intake do and is it safe,also pm me or e-mail me on some tuning stuf so i can go over it with don,i guess this is his first turbo car tune
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The BOV needs to get the signal from the Intake, not the turbo. At only 4lbs of boost, and a BOV that is likely opening, I don't think 399rwhp is too bad. I agree with JamMasterJ, you'll likely find another 75rwhp without much trouble.
I think the BOV should be taken off and put a plate there for tuning purpose 
It has been a problem since day one and would love to see it disapear till the tuning is done.
We did do different tuning with no gain.I ran as high as 18degree timing and A/F as high as 12.3-1..There was absolutely no hp or torque gains,,and I mean AT ALL..We were on the dyno for 2-3 hours.
I say get the controller and we'll get this to make some good boost up top.
It has been a problem since day one and would love to see it disapear till the tuning is done.We did do different tuning with no gain.I ran as high as 18degree timing and A/F as high as 12.3-1..There was absolutely no hp or torque gains,,and I mean AT ALL..We were on the dyno for 2-3 hours.
I say get the controller and we'll get this to make some good boost up top.
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well first off rob im kind of pissed that you didnt call like you said you were going to,second i hooked up the bov just like the instructions said one to the intake and one to the turbo housing so its not me its prob a pos bov that will have to be replaced as it is,third what do you mean thats not that bad if i had known i was going to gain so little i would have spent 6000 less and just sprayed the thing,compared to your claims the kit isnt doing as it sholuld,i dont mean to be getting testie but i spent a lot of money and time,to get what........ 80 more hp,and a busted *** bov,doesnt make sense,so i guess now i have to spend another 500 that i dont have for a boost controller just to get somthing out of it,well maybe you can charge me the differance on one in place of the ed write tuning that i didnt use,anything i feel like ive been violated.oh ya and the bov is not letting off boost i felt it well don did a pull the problem is its staying open at idle and part throttle so its setting a mass air meter light
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what size turbo do you have and how much boost are you running
when i had my T76 running 5psi i only made 385rwhp on the stang dyno, when i upped it to 10psi
(and a built engien) i made 512rwhp. You do need to be in the effiency range of the turbo, as the biiger turbos need pressure.
id take the bov off for tunning if you think its faulty
sounds like you got alot of tunning to do,
Cant Rob just give you an ls1 edit file from the Formula, the tune before he used the alki. Why does he even need ed right now if the customer puts it on the same set up as his formula?
when i had my T76 running 5psi i only made 385rwhp on the stang dyno, when i upped it to 10psi
(and a built engien) i made 512rwhp. You do need to be in the effiency range of the turbo, as the biiger turbos need pressure.
id take the bov off for tunning if you think its faulty
sounds like you got alot of tunning to do,
Cant Rob just give you an ls1 edit file from the Formula, the tune before he used the alki. Why does he even need ed right now if the customer puts it on the same set up as his formula?
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Okay, I give up. This is EXACTLY why we no longer offer it in "kit" form, and only as installed units. I gave you the reason I didn't call, I'm sorry you can't accept that. I spoke with you yesterday, and you said Slowhawk was driving it and found the problem.
Slowhawk then called and left the message that "everything was working like it should now with the BOV fixed", so I thought that meant you were okay at that point, so I didn't consider it a priority to call. My mistake.
And of course you are only gaining 80rwhp. You are only running 4lbs of boost, and it's leaking!
I have the same BOV on the Formula and it has no problem. You yourself told me yesterday that you didn't adjust it. I think that is obviously the problem. Not a "busted *** BOV".
Slowhawk then called and left the message that "everything was working like it should now with the BOV fixed", so I thought that meant you were okay at that point, so I didn't consider it a priority to call. My mistake.
And of course you are only gaining 80rwhp. You are only running 4lbs of boost, and it's leaking!
I have the same BOV on the Formula and it has no problem. You yourself told me yesterday that you didn't adjust it. I think that is obviously the problem. Not a "busted *** BOV".
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
Cant Rob just give you an ls1 edit file from the Formula, the tune before he used the alki. Why does he even need ed right now if the customer puts it on the same set up as his formula?
He's not the only one "pissed", I am too.
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I don't think the 85mm really helps that much as long as the tuning is right. When I spoke to transdamit yesterday though, he said you were getting a MAF code. If you haven't redone the maf tables correctly in LS1Edit, you aren't going to make any more power by adding boost.
Greg
Let me make this clear about Don and his abilities. This is not his first turbo car. He owns a GN, did you forget this? Also he tunes 7 sec mustangs for fun as well. Hes got endless blower cars under his belt as well. Tuning will only net gains when everyrhing else is in place as well. This kit was installed awfully quick. I would go back with a fine tooth comb and look over it all again. Theres more there. But you had hopes of huge numbers and that was first mistake. I seen some of the claims that this kit will make and I laugh, leave this off the board. You asked don to help, let him help. Take your gripe with rob to the phone. By asking a million different people for help you will get a million different answers. The only way for anyone to help is to see the car. Message boards are full of armchair mechanics. They dont see the car so they make best guests. Take it from me I used to panic as well. Don will find you your power once the obvious mechanical issue is found. Remain calm grasshopper you will soon be king of the lowly H/c car's over here
Let me make this clear about Don and his abilities. This is not his first turbo car. He owns a GN, did you forget this? Also he tunes 7 sec mustangs for fun as well. Hes got endless blower cars under his belt as well. Tuning will only net gains when everyrhing else is in place as well. This kit was installed awfully quick. I would go back with a fine tooth comb and look over it all again. Theres more there. But you had hopes of huge numbers and that was first mistake. I seen some of the claims that this kit will make and I laugh, leave this off the board. You asked don to help, let him help. Take your gripe with rob to the phone. By asking a million different people for help you will get a million different answers. The only way for anyone to help is to see the car. Message boards are full of armchair mechanics. They dont see the car so they make best guests. Take it from me I used to panic as well. Don will find you your power once the obvious mechanical issue is found. Remain calm grasshopper you will soon be king of the lowly H/c car's over here
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no rob i talked to you and still asked you to call to maybe give me some advice,and i adjusted the bov and it still didnt close even with the screw all the way out,so that to me seems like there is somthing wrong with it wouldnt you say,and because your running the same one on the fomula it doesnt mean that mine is not working right,maybe you can send me the one off the formula and you take mine and if it doesnt work then theres the answer,i checked everything and nothing is leaking its not the bov don did a run and i put my hand around it and i think 2 lbs of boost would be a noticable feel.and im not giving you **** like you think i am i gave you all my money and waited 7 months for somthing that is not up to par and asking your advice so dont jump down my throat,there is somthing wrong with the bov,credit me the tuning money and the other credit that prob has not happened yet ill buy the dam boost controller and never burdon you with any of it again ill just ask everyone else and figure it out on my own,so i hope you happy cause im not.oh ya and dont say i didnt opt for the mass air meter you know about the ordering feasco we had,and if i didnt opt for it how come i paid for it.
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mike i checked it over many times,and i didnt say that this was his first turbo car i meant that it was his first turbo ls1,and i didnt have big #s in my head i was just going by what the adds say,and i never said anything bad about don i think his work is unbelivable,and he is helping but a million different answers is a million different possibillities,and thats *** popper not grass hopper
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mike i checked it over many times,and i didnt say that this was his first turbo car i meant that it was his first turbo ls1,and i didnt have big #s in my head i was just going by what the adds say,and i never said anything bad about don i think his work is unbelivable,and he is helping but a million different answers is a million different possibillities,and thats *** popper not grass hopper
just be patient, take it from me. You know my sad tale in the world of fbods LOL! On The Tree
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Which is it? Is the BOV closed all the way or not? You first said it's not closed, but then said it's not leaking. You should have only one line running from the intake to the top port, the other port on the WG vents only.
Regarding what you did or didn't pay for, I have talked to you how many times now? And not once have you mentioned anything about not getting what you paid for.
If you want to try my BOV, I will gladly send it to you. But by continuing to flame me here because your tuning or installation is wrong, you are only going to make me less likely to help.
Regarding what you did or didn't pay for, I have talked to you how many times now? And not once have you mentioned anything about not getting what you paid for.
If you want to try my BOV, I will gladly send it to you. But by continuing to flame me here because your tuning or installation is wrong, you are only going to make me less likely to help.