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evo462 12-12-2010 08:35 PM

why a turbo 5.3 when there is a 6.0?
 
I was thinking earlier today...if I was going to do a 5.3 swap into my fbody, why not just go up to a 6.0? There is probably slightly higher costs involved with needing a bigger wastegate, blowoff valve, and turbo...is there a benefit from the 5.3 aside from being cheaper? The only thing I really need is the short block from either...

Thanks!

IT_SS 12-12-2010 09:16 PM

5.3s/4.8s are a cheaper (picked mine up for 150), have thicker cylinder walls, meetier pistons and can achieve a lower CR with untouched stock parts and are more plentyfull in the local jys

Nitroused383 12-12-2010 09:19 PM

5.3's seem to be a dime a dozen and sell a lot cheaper than 6.0's. Also, with a smaller engine you can make more power on the same size turbo before you are out of the efficiency range. Back pressure is also less of an issue with a smaller engine.

evo462 12-12-2010 09:36 PM

good info...thanks. something to think about. they do seem to be cheaper but upgrading to a 76mm turbo on a stock 6.0 seems tempting.

Josh@KY-Turbo 12-12-2010 11:14 PM

It all boils down to what you want. A 325ci 5.3L would be killer with good rods and pistons and a O-ring. Throw in a decent set of TFS heads and a 91mm Turbo. Good times for cheap.

PT01GT 12-13-2010 12:06 AM

same why I am building a 4.6 2v and not a 5.4 4v. Cost and you can still make plenty of power with a 5.3L. Thats the beauty about boost man. Makes up for displacement

skinnies 12-13-2010 03:51 AM

I did the 5.3 because it was cheaper, plus now I'm running the aluminum 5.3(L33) so that is 80lbs off the nose of the car, has the better rods than the lq4 6.0 and it has the 799 heads. I've gone the times in my sig on the 5.3 on 18lbs and off the footbrake.

PT01GT 12-13-2010 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by skinnies (Post 14230513)
I did the 5.3 because it was cheaper, plus now I'm running the aluminum 5.3(L33) so that is 80lbs off the nose of the car, has the better rods than the lq4 6.0 and it has the 799 heads. I've gone the times in my sig on the 5.3 on 18lbs and off the footbrake.

I have no idea what any of that means lol but the weight is a big thing. I am doing an ALUM 4.6 instead od a IRON 5.4 b.c of weight. If you have boost just add 2 more psi and make up for the less cubes and still be lighter

MillsMotorvation 12-13-2010 03:37 PM

I have a 6.0, but Im told stock rods cant take alot, where I hear a 5.3's rods can take alot more!

evo462 12-13-2010 05:52 PM

OK...maybe I'll forget about more cubic inches if/until I decide to go big turbo and big motor then.

Fb0dy0nly 12-13-2010 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by evo462 (Post 14232756)
OK...maybe I'll forget about more cubic inches if/until I decide to go big turbo and big motor then.

A 5.3 can always be bored out to a 5.7 as well for a little more down the road. Just a thought if you are looking to get the most out of the block before moving up.

71 chevy 12-13-2010 07:26 PM

5.3 is a fuse. $250 to replace its a quarter the cost of a 6.0 in my area plus as was mentioned, thicker walls and a smaller piston which means boost is acting on a smaller area(stronger)

99Z28LS1 12-13-2010 09:35 PM

Quit pinching pennies and just do a 370 :devil:

Dragframe 12-14-2010 12:20 AM

yup get a 6.0 imo.

You can always get there with a smaller motor... but takes more cylinder pressure to make the same power as a larger motor.

skinnies 12-14-2010 01:34 AM

If the tune is good, the weak link between both motors is going to be the rods, which are the same(lm7/lq4 and the lq9/L33).

Dragframe 12-14-2010 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by skinnies (Post 14234462)
If the tune is good, the weak link between both motors is going to be the rods, which are the same(lm7/lq4 and the lq9/L33).


Depends on the year.... rods changed.

But I still vote 6.0

Had a 5.3 in my lt1 bird with a tc76 on it. Lots of fun =]
But if I were to do the same junkyard dog build again I would
do a 6.0

skinnies 12-14-2010 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Dragframe (Post 14234682)
Depends on the year.... rods changed.

But I still vote 6.0

Had a 5.3 in my lt1 bird with a tc76 on it. Lots of fun =]
But if I were to do the same junkyard dog build again I would
do a 6.0

Correct which if you read my post it mentions that, the lm7 and lq4 rods are the same, the l33 and lq9 rods are the same(also same as ls2 rods).

MillsMotorvation 12-14-2010 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by skinnies (Post 14234736)
Correct which if you read my post it mentions that, the lm7 and lq4 rods are the same, the l33 and lq9 rods are the same(also same as ls2 rods).

So what are the stock 2002 LQ4's good for?

WSsick 12-14-2010 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by MillsMotorvation (Post 14232221)
I have a 6.0, but Im told stock rods cant take alot, where I hear a 5.3's rods can take alot more!

I would go with ARP hardware there, no reason to take that risk for such a small insurance investment.


Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1 (Post 14233757)
Quit pinching pennies and just do a 370 :devil:

:lol: You handing out the money? I'll be first in line!:D


Originally Posted by MillsMotorvation (Post 14236556)
So what are the stock 2002 LQ4's good for?

That is too open-ended of a question. Lots of factors can play into that.

Dragframe 12-14-2010 10:53 PM

Unless your tryin to make well over 600rwhp then quit thinking about it so much. Any of them will hold that on a good tune.

If your trying to make more than that, then any stock part besides the crank is a gamble.


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