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Old 01-03-2011, 09:17 AM
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I just found this car in the for sale a section and it went 5.60 in the 1/8 mile with a stock bottom end with a z06 cam. That 1/8 mile equates to somewhere around 8.80 in the 1/4. If thats the case then wouldn't that beat the time that Skinnies had on here with the rx7 w/5.3?
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicle-c...-lq4-76mm.html

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How can it hold a record for something it never completed? just my thought process though...
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I'm thinking he was saying WOULD it beat skinnie's time if it ran an 8.8 and what is the likelihood of it running an 8.80
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Well, me personally, I have never blown a motor in the first half of the track. All of mine have let go past the 1000' mark. It would have to be VERY light and geared very close ratio because a stock rod does not like being spun very high. So my short answer is that I doubt it.
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It has 3.73's with a th350 so we know thats not rpm friendly. I just posted in his for sale thread and asked if he ever ran down the 1/4
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Cobra killer is right, most cars blow towards the end of the track, more load is put on motor in higher gears, thus why most cars that run the standing mile only run 1-4 some run 1-5 with a 6 spd.
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lmao untill that car beats the record what's the point of your post?
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It could beat it.
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It would stay together in the 1/4 with a gear change, a 3.23 would be about perfect, why wouldnt it, that setup probably only revs to 6000rpm. Maxx and my setups havent blown up yet and we are running stock LQ4 longblocks.

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Originally Posted by Hank Peabody
It would stay together in the 1/4, why wouldnt it, that setup probably only revs to 6000rpm. Maxx and my setups havent blown up yet and we are running stock LQ4 longblocks.
Actually with a 3.73 and a 28, he would need to spin it to atleast 7k to get close to the MPH the RX7 went. I also did lose a thrust bearing in my first LQ4, not really a fail due to power, but still lose one.
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Originally Posted by MaxxMitchell
Actually with a 3.73 and a 28, he would need to spin it to atleast 7k to get close to the MPH the RX7 went. I also did lose a thrust bearing in my first LQ4, not really a fail due to power, but still lose one.
I was assuming simple changes like gears or a taller tire, so no as it sits it wouldnt. But it does hold the quickest and fastest stock 1/8th mile record! Who is the sanctioning body anyway? BTW, Ive got the quickest and fastest stock longblock record in my zipcode. For red cars made in 1980. Ive also got the record for the least quick and fastest stock longblock record with a 2.299 60' and 145mph speed. Im also the quickest and fastest on a 7.5" rear with a stock longblock made in 2003 with 99k miles on it.
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Originally Posted by Hank Peabody
It would stay together in the 1/4, why wouldnt it, that setup probably only revs to 6000rpm. Maxx and my setups havent blown up yet and we are running stock LQ4 longblocks.
I run an 8.9 @ 153 with a 3.50 rear gear and 28" tire and I go thru the traps over 7,200. With a 3.73 and a 28 running an 8.8 @ say 155 (that's with a killer 60'), he would have to be spinning over 7500-7700 thru the traps. I don't think it would live at those power levels at that RPM.

Also, the ad states that it's a 1986 mustang but it looks like it's been made over to look like a 1990+. I would go over that title with a fine toothed comb unless it's a race only deal.
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Like I said in the post directly above yours posted 14 minutes before yours, I was assuming a gear or tire change would be ok, I didnt know the question was "Would this car EXACTLY as it sits, same spark plugs and same tank of gas as is sitting in it RIGHT NOW, would it break the so-called stock shortblock record" Changing gears and tires is pretty typical when going from 1/8th to 1/4 mile racing. Can anyone point me to the rules regarding the "stock shortblock record"?
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Originally Posted by Hank Peabody
Like I said in the post directly above yours posted 14 minutes before yours, I was assuming a gear or tire change would be ok, I didnt know the question was "Would this car EXACTLY as it sits, same spark plugs and same tank of gas as is sitting in it RIGHT NOW, would it break the so-called stock shortblock record" Changing gears and tires is pretty typical when going from 1/8th to 1/4 mile racing. Can anyone point me to the rules regarding the "stock shortblock record"?
Not going to happen. It will ventilate the crankcase. Don't care what gear and tire you put on there unless you lighten the car up to sub 2500#'s.

This entire debate is pointless anyway as it really needs to be in a stock suspension car that came with an LSx based motor from the factory in order to hold the record. If not, you could have a 1000 lb sand rail with an LS1 motor in it holding the record.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Not going to happen. It will ventilate the crankcase. Don't care what gear and tire you put on there unless you lighten the car up to sub 2500#'s.

This entire debate is pointless anyway as it really needs to be in a stock suspension car that came with an LSx based motor from the factory in order to hold the record. If not, you could have a 1000 lb sand rail with an LS1 motor in it holding the record.
Yeah Im not sure anyone knows what exactly the rules are to this record, you are right the first person to put a junkyard engine in a dragster with a small turbo by default has this "record"

Why would it ventilate the crankcase any sooner than Skinnies L33 would? This Mustang probably weighs barely more than the RX7 so whats the big challenge to go as quick or quicker? Im sure the RX7 could go quicker too with more trying.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Not going to happen. It will ventilate the crankcase. Don't care what gear and tire you put on there unless you lighten the car up to sub 2500#'s.

This entire debate is pointless anyway as it really needs to be in a stock suspension car that came with an LSx based motor from the factory in order to hold the record. If not, you could have a 1000 lb sand rail with an LS1 motor in it holding the record.
If thats the case then Skinnies doesn't have the record since it wasn't in an ls based vehicle. It would be the member who had the stock ls1 in that red firebird with the s480 turbo.
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LOL....bench racing ftw. Yep that 1/8th is quicker than I went, but I still have gone the quickest AND fastest in the 1/4 and was the first into the 8's. Yes the car has a lot more in it, I was leaving on the footbrake also. My car is made to drive, not run just down the track(hence the 3.50 gear and 33" tall tires, hell it gets 20 plus mpg). I'll be back out with a stock lq9 and bigger turbo, lighter car, leaving on the transbrake to show what the car is really capable of doing. For what it is worth, the night I ended up doing the big wheelie and coming down and hitting my oil pan it went 5.90 at 98mph on the brakes...on my middle boost setting so down 125rwhp. For you bench racing fools, it would've gone a lot quicker in the 1/8th on my high boost and leaving on that transbrake that night.

Until someone runs quicker(which I think in a light fox would be easy to do, I only made 686rwhp and hadn't leaned on it yet) I still got the record for the stock bottom end.
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Originally Posted by skinnies
I still got the record for the stock bottom end.
Not for long!!!!

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Originally Posted by Hank Peabody
Not for long!!!!

LOL...I am honestly expecting it to get beat before I hit the track again, the rx7 went on the back burner until I can finish up my new daily driver(1985 4 door ford LTD fully loaded with a turbo ls swap).
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This post is kind of like the guy that posted and got on the stock cube nitrous list with an LS2 in a Fox while everyone else had 346/7's in F-bodies, 'vettes, and GTO's...

Things have changed so much in these motors since these "records" were created that that sort of record doesn't mean much anymore... Someone will eventually get enough money and throw a turbo ls9 into a light car and break it again.


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