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kainedogg May 7, 2012 04:57 PM

Best converter to help launch on T70's
 
Still gathering parts for my build. Was wondering the best stall or if factory would do:

1968 A-body

4l60e (ultra stock)

stock '03 5.3 with '02 LS6 cam and LS2 springs

twin " T70's with .84 a/r (biggest concern)

8.2" 3.08 gears

71 chevy May 7, 2012 08:22 PM

twin 70s on your 5.3 would spool like twin 60s on my 4.8....very slowly and not fun at all, for the street or racing. and, i was using e85 which spools faster than gas

i would use a single t70 and have a blast.

kainedogg May 7, 2012 08:46 PM

I knew you were going to say that Chevy...lol. So would they work better on a 6.0?

Cronic_Moronic May 7, 2012 09:28 PM

Are you talking about ebay t70s or something that is a 70mm turbo?

kainedogg May 7, 2012 09:49 PM

Hong Kong Phooey Ebay specials.

71 chevy May 7, 2012 09:55 PM

same converter

twin 60s on the 4.8 took 1.2 secs just to hit 1 psi
twin 60s on the 6.0, 0.5

twin 60s 4.8, 4 secs to hit 4000rpms
twin 60s 6.0 , 0.9 secs to 4000 rpms

so, they will definitely work a ton better with a 6.0

kainedogg May 7, 2012 10:07 PM

So guys who are making really good power (over 700) seem to be doing so with single T76's then eh.

71 chevy May 7, 2012 10:08 PM

what is your goal for the car?

Cronic_Moronic May 7, 2012 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by kainedogg (Post 16285803)
Hong Kong fooey Ebay specials.

They most likely aren't even close to a 70mm turbo then.

The cheap ones have a 52mm inducer on the compressor - they are small. Smaller than a t60 from a branded manufacturer by a lot.

I got bored and looked up the specs for the generic t3/t4 $120 turbo... It's the same things as the generic t3 flange t70 they sell.

kainedogg May 7, 2012 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by 71 chevy (Post 16285902)
what is your goal for the car?

Just an ungodly fast car on street tires, that may never see a drag strip and timed runs would be through my g-tech pro until I found a built rear end I could actually afford.

kainedogg May 7, 2012 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Cronic_Moronic (Post 16285933)
They most likely aren't even close to a 70mm turbo then.

The cheap ones have a 52mm inducer on the compressor - they are small. Smaller than a t60 from a branded manufacturer by a lot.

I got bored and looked up the specs for the generic t3/t4 $120 turbo... It's the same things as the generic t3 flange t70 they sell.

Hmm, appreciate the research friend. I guess with ebay turbos there is a not of interchange parts to keep the prices really low. Well I am committed to this course. When the T70's die, I may spring for something legit.

Cronic_Moronic May 7, 2012 11:11 PM

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ine/index.html

skinnies May 7, 2012 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by kainedogg (Post 16285994)
Just an ungodly fast car on street tires, that may never see a drag strip and timed runs would be through my g-tech pro until I found a built rear end I could actually afford.

Single 76 would be fine, I just went 10.25 on street tires(not drag radials) in my LTD with extra weight in the back so weighing in at over 3900lbs and it is just a single 76 and jy 5.3 setup.

kainedogg May 8, 2012 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by skinnies (Post 16286368)
Single 76 would be fine, I just went 10.25 on street tires(not drag radials) in my LTD with extra weight in the back so weighing in at over 3900lbs and it is just a single 76 and jy 5.3 setup.

Skinnies, not listening to you...lol. You are ungodly fast x3 and who knows the clever tricks you have wrapped up in your build. :hail: Seriously though since I have this much time and effort committed to this set up, I will ride it through and see what happens.
Already made that bed and not quite opposed to lying in it. However after they blow (hopefully not on the first day) a name brand T76 and single turbo setup will be embraced.

Orr89rocz May 8, 2012 08:24 AM

I went from twin 60's (which I believe 71 chevy now has or had) to T70's on my mild 400 sbc...didnt like it as much. Same housing on turbine but spool was delayed abit. I didnt have enough motor for them. I ran a PTC converter, footbrake to 3K rpm and saw 0 psi. Only once did I get up to 3200 and saw 1-2 psi boost with the T70s. T60's came on abit quicker but still didnt make boost on the line. Tune probably wasnt the greatest for building boost and I never got a chance to work on it, but it was noticeable from a roll on the street...70's were behind the 60's in spool time

You dont need 70's on a 5.3. 60's is as big as i would go. You can make 800whp on 60's. Leave 70's for 1000+

71 chevy May 8, 2012 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Orr89rocz (Post 16287028)
I went from twin 60's (which I believe 71 chevy now has or had) to T70's on my mild 400 sbc...didnt like it as much. Same housing on turbine but spool was delayed abit. I didnt have enough motor for them. I ran a PTC converter, footbrake to 3K rpm and saw 0 psi. Only once did I get up to 3200 and saw 1-2 psi boost with the T70s. T60's came on abit quicker but still didnt make boost on the line. Tune probably wasnt the greatest for building boost and I never got a chance to work on it, but it was noticeable from a roll on the street...70's were behind the 60's in spool time

You dont need 70's on a 5.3. 60's is as big as i would go. You can make 800whp on 60's. Leave 70's for 1000+

Yep, I still have those 60s. They spool ungodly fast with a 6.0 and a stock cam.

kainedogg, did you already buy the 70s? my buddy has twin t3 EBAY turbos on his 5.3 car and even with a big cam, the car is a beast on the street. it is scary riding in that thing it comes up so fast.

gnx7 May 8, 2012 10:32 AM

Hit it with a 75hp Nitrous shot and see it spool a lot faster :)

kainedogg May 8, 2012 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by 71 chevy (Post 16287083)
Yep, I still have those 60s. They spool ungodly fast with a 6.0 and a stock cam.

kainedogg, did you already buy the 70s? my buddy has twin t3 EBAY turbos on his 5.3 car and even with a big cam, the car is a beast on the street. it is scary riding in that thing it comes up so fast.

You saw my build thread Chevy...you know I already have them sitting on my coffee table :bang: Send me a link to those turbos anyway, if they are as cheap as the T70's ($340), I might get them. Won't be smiling when I do though. What the hell made me think I needed T70's? :mullet:

71 chevy May 8, 2012 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by kainedogg (Post 16287971)
You saw my build thread Chevy...you know I already have them sitting on my coffee table :bang: Send me a link to those turbos anyway, if they are as cheap as the T70's ($340), I might get them. Won't be smiling when I do though. What the hell made me think I needed T70's? :mullet:

same price as the t70s. I think they are a 57mm.

if its true that they are only like a 53 mm like the other guy said, then use them you'll be fine.

the ones my buddy used are $179 each. my vote is that you sell yours for about $250 and buy a USED master power t70 for about $500.

it will spool so fast you wont know what hit ya, and it will make enough power to be useless on street and still be capable of running 9s at the track

kainedogg May 9, 2012 09:28 AM

I will keep these bad boys for a C10 project with a 6.0,

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...4-18165757.jpg

but I will grab a T70 (name brand as well) Of course if you come across a deal, you know how we do.


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