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mike13 Jul 23, 2012 06:54 PM

My engine doesn't like NGK TR7's
 
I have a 390, etp heads, 83mm turbo, I was getting a slight misfire in light throttle applications, installed a new set of TR7's and wires and still had the misfire. Decided to pull the plugs and take a look at the color, put a set of TR7IX's and the misfire cleared up.

The misfire wasn't bad enough to show up as a afr change in the datalogg but you could hear a random pop in the exhaust.

Anyone else have problems with TR7's/BR7EF?

shawnc16 Jul 23, 2012 07:03 PM

Seems like everyone is using BR7EFs

89L98T56 Jul 23, 2012 07:25 PM

BR7EFs here. 383/pt88/e85/900rwhp no issues! what were they gapped to?

silver_82 Jul 23, 2012 07:47 PM

BR7EF's were fine on the dyno but on the track and street they misfired for me too. They were clean and the timing strap looked good but for whatever reason they didnt work under boost in "real world" conditions

mike13 Jul 23, 2012 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by 89L98T56 (Post 16548775)
BR7EFs here. 383/pt88/e85/900rwhp no issues! what were they gapped to?

gap .026

86lxnotch Jul 23, 2012 08:50 PM

i have the br7ef's at .028 and no issues so far. i wouldnt use the ext. tip plugs besides to throw through junk car windows

SNOOP Jul 23, 2012 08:52 PM

Bring gap down to .020

I8UR4RD Jul 23, 2012 08:52 PM

i have mine set at .026 but I have not yet driven the car. posted a thread recently to see where other people were gapping them at.

mike13 Jul 23, 2012 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by SNOOP (Post 16549166)
Bring gap down to .020

still had the miss and the idle got rougher when I tried going to .022

I8UR4RD Jul 23, 2012 09:11 PM

I am not sure if your running any n20 or a blower/turbo etc.....but tr6's may be better for your application. I didn't see a sig

Fbodyjunkie06 Jul 23, 2012 09:11 PM

What is the AFR at during idle?

Did you drop any of them? Porcelain cracked?

Spark plug wire not tightened on the boot?

How tight are you tightening them?

Shouldn't be doing that at all. Also there is no such thing as a TR7;) BR7EF:)

Never would I run a projected tip plug in a boosted motor even though I didn't know any better a year ago. Do people do it and live through it...yes, is it right? No.

LS1PUNK Jul 23, 2012 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by mike13 (Post 16548680)
I have a 390, etp heads, 83mm turbo, I was getting a slight misfire in light throttle applications, installed a new set of TR7's and wires and still had the misfire. Decided to pull the plugs and take a look at the color, put a set of TR7IX's and the misfire cleared up.

The misfire wasn't bad enough to show up as a afr change in the datalogg but you could hear a random pop in the exhaust.

Anyone else have problems with TR7's/BR7EF?


Originally Posted by I8UR4RD (Post 16549259)
I am not sure if your running any n20 or a blower/turbo etc.....but tr6's may be better for your application. I didn't see a sig

Do u wear glasses? :twak:

Phil99vette Jul 23, 2012 09:25 PM

Autolite AR3911s should do the trick

mike13 Jul 23, 2012 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06 (Post 16549260)
What is the AFR at during idle?

Did you drop any of them? Porcelain cracked?

Spark plug wire not tightened on the boot?

How tight are you tightening them?

Shouldn't be doing that at all. Also there is no such thing as a TR7;) BR7EF:)

Never would I run a projected tip plug in a boosted motor even though I didn't know any better a year ago. Do people do it and live through it...yes, is it right? No.

14.40-14.6
no not dropped, had the same problem with 2 sets
I'm not sure how tight.

The reason I went with the TR7IX's is I did a search and there is some complaint of the BR7EF plugs on the supercharged cobra & lightning forums and the IX's cleared up the misfire and drivability issues.

I wouldn't normally run extended tip plugs but I upped the octane with 3 gallons of 114 per tank (95 octane) and run 100% meth with conservative afr's and timing.

9sectruck Jul 23, 2012 09:26 PM

i ran my tr6 on my built 365 all the way up to 22psi, not saying it was right but the throttle response felt alot better off boost, gaped .026

mike13 Jul 23, 2012 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Phil99vette (Post 16549336)
Autolite AR3911s should do the trick

I'll remember that, thanks for the suggestion.

Fbodyjunkie06 Jul 23, 2012 09:58 PM

Very interesting.

I run B9EFS and have no troubles.

I8UR4RD Jul 23, 2012 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by LS1PUNK (Post 16549316)
Do u wear glasses? :twak:

naah. just missed the post. im guilty of skimming. This info is relevant to me if hes the Mike i am thinking of.

trav-tech Jul 24, 2012 12:37 AM

i just switched to bp7efs from tr6's sofar so good gapped at .028" 813rwhp on stock short block 5.3L 9.9to1 comp on vp c16 fuel.

denmah Jul 24, 2012 12:41 AM

tr6's run so much better than br7ef's for a street car is crazy

but at some point you gotta have that br7ef.

i might switch back to tr6 and keep it under 20lbs of boost.


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