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LS6427 Sep 26, 2012 03:04 PM

Thick deck head with the most chamber cc's.......????
 
Is there a head with a thicker deck than factory that has a chamber size greater than 72cc?????

Which ones?

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stevieturbo Sep 26, 2012 04:31 PM

My TFS heads are circa 74cc

87silverbullet Sep 26, 2012 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 16759374)
My TFS heads are circa 74cc

Did you get work done to them? The biggest i know of from TFS is 70cc.

stevieturbo Sep 26, 2012 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by 87silverbullet (Post 16759413)
Did you get work done to them? The biggest i know of from TFS is 70cc.

Oddly I'm pretty sure they were sold to me as 74cc about 5 years ago. I needed them in a huge rush, so really I was happy to get anything at the time. They are absolutely not 64cc though

But when I measured them myself earlier in the year I would have said they were closed to 72cc. Wouldnt say my measuring practise was 100% accurate though.

So my 74cc may be wrong and it could well be 70cc.

87silverbullet Sep 26, 2012 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 16759455)
Oddly I'm pretty sure they were sold to me as 74cc about 5 years ago. I needed them in a huge rush, so really I was happy to get anything at the time. They are absolutely not 64cc though

But when I measured them myself earlier in the year I would have said they were closed to 72cc. Wouldnt say my measuring practise was 100% accurate though.

So my 74cc may be wrong and it could well be 70cc.

Nothing is never perfect. Gotta measure them anyway, just to make sure. I have had heads be off on the cc of chambers so many times. It's never what's advertised.

RAACCR Sep 27, 2012 10:13 AM

Try calling Richard at West Coast Cylinder Heads (LS1Tech sponsor). He machines the Edelbrock castings; you can get them with 74cc chambers using HIP'd castings which makes them very durable for forced induction applications.

koolrayz Sep 27, 2012 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by RAACCR (Post 16761416)
Try calling Richard at West Coast Cylinder Heads (LS1Tech sponsor). He machines the Edelbrock castings; you can get them with 74cc chambers using HIP'd castings which makes them very durable for forced induction applications.

They also carry All Pro heads

TurboS10 Sep 27, 2012 01:30 PM

ProComp are 80cc IIRC. Not that I'd use them for FI...

For FI, you can get Cometic's w/ thicker compressed thickness, they won't cause detonation issues like they would in a NA setup.

stevieturbo Sep 27, 2012 01:37 PM

How big do you actually want/need ? and why ?

93camaro_zzz Sep 27, 2012 01:43 PM

Just curious why you are looking for something larger than 72cc?

I built my engine with low compression pistons, 72cc AFR's, and Cometic gaskets, and I managed to only get 9.06:1 static compression out of it. But in hindsight I really wish I wouldnt have done that, because now I am going single front mount and E85, and that 9:1 compression is not good for either one of those. Wish it was more in the 10.0 - 10.5 range.

stevieturbo Sep 27, 2012 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz (Post 16761954)
Just curious why you are looking for something larger than 72cc?

I built my engine with low compression pistons, 72cc AFR's, and Cometic gaskets, and I managed to only get 9.06:1 static compression out of it. But in hindsight I really wish I wouldnt have done that, because now I am going single front mount and E85, and that 9:1 compression is not good for either one of those. Wish it was more in the 10.0 - 10.5 range.

Just fit new pistons then ? Or use lots more boost.

LS6427 Sep 27, 2012 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 16761932)
How big do you actually want/need ? and why ?

Well, my AES 390ci is on its way to me right now. I had them buuild it with 10.8:1 cr......with flat top pistons, so I won't have such an N/A dog for the next 8-9 months.

Then when I install the turbo in 8-9 months I'll be using full time E85 fuel for sure but still wanted to lower the compression a little bit when I get new heads. My heads now are 69cc so I need some larger chambered new heads to drop the compression. Using LS9 head gaskets.

I don't want to do a piston change later on...........

I plan to go 18psi......single turbo....E85. 100% street car. Will never see a drag strip.

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stevieturbo Sep 28, 2012 04:19 AM

So are those pistons in it now suitable for boost ? Or are they a n/a piston ?

The two are not the same.

And having driven my own n/a when I first put it together a few weeks ago. At around 9.0:1 it could hardly be described as a dog. It drove superbly and went far better than I expected.

LS6427 Sep 28, 2012 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 16763821)
So are those pistons in it now suitable for boost ? Or are they a n/a piston ?

The two are not the same.

And having driven my own n/a when I first put it together a few weeks ago. At around 9.0:1 it could hardly be described as a dog. It drove superbly and went far better than I expected.

Pistons are flat top and made for boost. I figured on E85 and 10.3:1 I'd be safe from detonation and get a faster spool.

I should be 10.8 right now......going from 69cc up to 72cc will give me 10.3:1 cr. if we figured right.....

69cc heads
.051 gaskets
Flat pustons
3.825 stroke
4.030 bore

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LS6427 Oct 6, 2012 05:06 PM

Anyone else know of larger cc thick deck heads than 72cc?

Or can chambers on 72cc heads be worked and made to be larger than 72cc???

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