WS6 Rear Mounted Radiator (UPDATE!!! COMPLETE AND TESTING) MANY PICS INSIDE!!!
09-14-2013, 04:05 PM
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well without a thermostat in the car it took 12 minutes idling to reach 175 degrees without the fans running. sitting still in the hot sun I let it run for 20 minutes and never got above 190. I cut some more out of the rear inner bumper for fan air exit so may help even more now. I think I finally got all the air out of it making the total volume for this system around 4.8 gallons
09-14-2013, 04:35 PM
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Just the extra capacity alone should help out. You sir are definitely a pioneer. You have thought outside the box. Now time for some driving and put it to the test. I am considering doing it this winter. I just have to have the radiator sealed off from the interior, I don't wanna hear the fans at all.
09-14-2013, 08:09 PM
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Just the extra capacity alone should help out. You sir are definitely a pioneer. You have thought outside the box. Now time for some driving and put it to the test. I am considering doing it this winter. I just have to have the radiator sealed off from the interior, I don't wanna hear the fans at all.
09-14-2013, 08:50 PM
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09-16-2013, 07:53 AM
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Well I when cut crazy. Also got a vacuum bleeder.
All of this and its a failure lol. Still heats up. There is absolutely no air in the system im sure of it. Bottom line is stock water pump is not strong enough to push now 5.5 gallons of coolant around especially uphill in some spots.
Ill save my piping and maybe try again but wanted to have my car ready for Ticks customer appreciation day for the dyno shootout so I just put my new thicker radiator back up front, changed a few things and ill leave it to a later date. I was a good try but now we know a good electric pump is needed for a setup like this and I just cant drop the money at the moment on one. This whole thing was basically done for nothing is why I to the plunge.
All of this and its a failure lol. Still heats up. There is absolutely no air in the system im sure of it. Bottom line is stock water pump is not strong enough to push now 5.5 gallons of coolant around especially uphill in some spots.
Ill save my piping and maybe try again but wanted to have my car ready for Ticks customer appreciation day for the dyno shootout so I just put my new thicker radiator back up front, changed a few things and ill leave it to a later date. I was a good try but now we know a good electric pump is needed for a setup like this and I just cant drop the money at the moment on one. This whole thing was basically done for nothing is why I to the plunge.
09-16-2013, 08:41 AM
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09-16-2013, 11:42 AM
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What fans were you using when the radiator was up front? I have zero issues in Florida summer weather with my front mount turbo setup.....but I also managed to fit the stock fans in the stock location after modifying the housing. As far as I'm concerned anything less than stock fans will leave you open to overheating issues. I used to use aftermarket fans and got tired of worrying about coolant temps. Did what it took to put stock fans back in up front and haven't looked back.
09-16-2013, 02:16 PM
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09-16-2013, 03:52 PM
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to me it looks like the interior would get filled with dust and other stuff picked up off the road. dont see any screen on the openings. also standing in traffic i think it would allow in fumes from other vehicles in ur compartment.
quite a few guys have had good success w standing up the radiator mod in 4th gens.
theres a guy here local who i know car makes 800+rw with twins and gets driven near everyday. shitty houston traffic and all. stood up rad., stock fans and ducting. runs a a2w ic tho. has a small pusher on the heat exchanger. but car runs fine and doesnt overheat.
good effort.
i applaud the try something new approach.doesnt always work out in real time, even tho its bullet proof on paper and guaranteed in our heads. ive been there.
im adapting a gt500 sc to a ls motor and so far every single thing ive had to make on my own.
quite a few guys have had good success w standing up the radiator mod in 4th gens.
theres a guy here local who i know car makes 800+rw with twins and gets driven near everyday. shitty houston traffic and all. stood up rad., stock fans and ducting. runs a a2w ic tho. has a small pusher on the heat exchanger. but car runs fine and doesnt overheat.
good effort.
i applaud the try something new approach.doesnt always work out in real time, even tho its bullet proof on paper and guaranteed in our heads. ive been there.
im adapting a gt500 sc to a ls motor and so far every single thing ive had to make on my own.
09-16-2013, 04:01 PM
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to me it looks like the interior would get filled with dust and other stuff picked up off the road. dont see any screen on the openings. also standing in traffic i think it would allow in fumes from other vehicles in ur compartment.
quite a few guys have had good success w standing up the radiator mod in 4th gens.
theres a guy here local who i know car makes 800+rw with twins and gets driven near everyday. shitty houston traffic and all. stood up rad., stock fans and ducting. runs a a2w ic tho. has a small pusher on the heat exchanger. but car runs fine and doesnt overheat.
good effort.
i applaud the try something new approach.doesnt always work out in real time, even tho its bullet proof on paper and guaranteed in our heads. ive been there.
im adapting a gt500 sc to a ls motor and so far every single thing ive had to make on my own.
quite a few guys have had good success w standing up the radiator mod in 4th gens.
theres a guy here local who i know car makes 800+rw with twins and gets driven near everyday. shitty houston traffic and all. stood up rad., stock fans and ducting. runs a a2w ic tho. has a small pusher on the heat exchanger. but car runs fine and doesnt overheat.
good effort.
i applaud the try something new approach.doesnt always work out in real time, even tho its bullet proof on paper and guaranteed in our heads. ive been there.
im adapting a gt500 sc to a ls motor and so far every single thing ive had to make on my own.
09-19-2013, 07:15 AM
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Sucks after all that work not to use the rear rad system. I think with the rad up front and in the path of the air from the nostrils you should have fresh unrestricted air flow. You also prob lost about 10lbs of weight from the back of the car from cutting away the sheet metal in the rear. LOL
09-19-2013, 08:11 AM
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Sucks after all that work not to use the rear rad system. I think with the rad up front and in the path of the air from the nostrils you should have fresh unrestricted air flow. You also prob lost about 10lbs of weight from the back of the car from cutting away the sheet metal in the rear. LOL
09-19-2013, 10:24 AM
#118
Here is an interesting thread. Looks like any high temps at low engine loads are down to airflow over the rad rather than water pump speed or radiator capacity. Look at 'Max Torque' posts.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...+Answer+is+%21
Obviously at high engine loads that changes.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...+Answer+is+%21
Obviously at high engine loads that changes.
