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Old 04-20-2015, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mistafosta
And again I don't think the GVOD will fit. I have trouble fitting bigger than a 3.5" driveshaft, theres no way I'd fit a GVOD...

So with a 28" tire and 3.54 rear end, if your rev limit is 7500, then you can go 176 mph at 1:1 Ratio. Problem is with an auto you will have 3-10% slip at that point, so your top speed goes down significantly. And I know you are extremely limited with your ratios, having been down the r200 road before myself. Maybe time to bump up to an 8.8?

I run a 28" tire, and a 3.27 ratio 9" in my Z. Cruising on the freeway at 75 is totally reasonable. Turbos make it quite quiet.
I think there is a 3.133 R&P out there somehwere.. If i can get my hands on that i might be in business. To scrap the R200 at this point would be a big hit. I have so much cash tied up into it.

I can do the 70mph 2800rpm thing. What i fear is me running out of gear and or wrapping the engine to the moon everytime i get on it. Also im still considering a 408
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
I street drive on a 27.5" tire as in the vid. At the track I run on 26" tires

I have trapped 163 on 26" tires and under 7000rpm, but my slip is almost non existent up top

Rpm goes a long ways for extended too
At 7000rpm you literally have ZERO slip (Calc top speed of 164), thats pretty amazing. What is your converter?
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Being able to put down big power on the street or track consistently and laying down serious times without ever worrying about something breaking let's you overlook other stuff.

Make the car quiet enough and you dont know the difference between 1500 and 2500 lol. I can't unless I look at the tach


Its all give and take
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Originally Posted by mistafosta
At 7000rpm you literally have ZERO slip (Calc top speed of 164), thats pretty amazing. What is your converter?
I have a PTC 9.5 with a very aggressive 13-0 stator, you can literally feel it couple down out the back

But bias ply grow a bit too
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Man all this gear calculation BS is making want to keep my Damn T56 super magnum. I thought the built 4L80E was going to be an easy drop in and go. I never factored in that OD wouldnt hold up at WOT and 3rd gear runs out around 165-170MPH
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Man all this gear calculation BS is making want to keep my Damn T56 super magnum. I thought the built 4L80E was going to be an easy drop in and go. I never factored in that OD wouldnt hold up at WOT and 3rd gear runs out around 165-170MPH
Also its gonna cost you a massive amount of money if you want it to last a long time with the power you want to run...
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
I have a PTC 9.5 with a very aggressive 13-0 stator, you can literally feel it couple down out the back

But bias ply grow a bit too
Thats pretty impressive. How is spool time on it? I think your setup was similar to my old setup. (At least our times are extremely similar)
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Being able to put down big power on the street or track consistently and laying down serious times without ever worrying about something breaking let's you overlook other stuff.

Make the car quiet enough and you dont know the difference between 1500 and 2500 lol. I can't unless I look at the tach


Its all give and take
Mine is very quiet now, especially since gone turbo. And even despite a 1500rpm cruise...at times I've still looked for a 7th gear ! LOL

That cruise is difference between 5th and 6th gear in mine.

My previous engine/box setup only had 5 gears, and yes rpm's were much higher and it was never a bother. But after having that nice tall 6th gear, I really wouldnt want to go back.
I would really like a proper sequential box, but I'd lose that tall 6th gear with that too...not something I want to sacrifice.
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Originally Posted by mistafosta
Also its gonna cost you a massive amount of money if you want it to last a long time with the power you want to run...
I have a guy local that can build me a 4l80E for a reasonable amount. I just don't want to be redoing the trans in a year. I was under the impression they were bulletproof.
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Originally Posted by oscs
I have a guy local that can build me a 4l80E for a reasonable amount. I just don't want to be redoing the trans in a year. I was under the impression they were bulletproof.
For 800hp sure. 1000? 1200? 1400? Much less bulletproof.

Also OD was never meant for racing hahaha
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Originally Posted by mistafosta
For 800hp sure. 1000? 1200? 1400? Much less bulletproof.

Also OD was never meant for racing hahaha

Damnit! Well maybe ill give this guy his money back and just keep this trans
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Originally Posted by mistafosta
Thats pretty impressive. How is spool time on it? I think your setup was similar to my old setup. (At least our times are extremely similar)
I'd call it a magic converter lol. I have a monster turbine, 111mm, here is how well I can get on the brake with a converter that is that tight up top

No heat in the system here either.

The converter really works good on more power, the track time was on 18psi, after an injector change and 24psi on the street it was really working good. Not enough power in and it tugs it good on the shift though

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I lied, you can have it all. Give me a double clutch setup like in a gtr.

Well k except for the price
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
I'd call it a magic converter lol. I have a monster turbine, 111mm, here is how well I can get on the brake with a converter that is that tight up top

No heat in the system here either.

The converter really works good on more power, the track time was on 18psi, after an injector change and 24psi on the street it was really working good. Not enough power in and it tugs it good on the shift though

Hp8811 trans brake, PTC 9.5. No foot brake aid - YouTube
Not bad, I'm always on the 2 step spooling so I'm not sure how fast mine is unleashed like that. If I left at 5k and that much boost I would probably flip over...
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Lolz. I don't go to the track hardly at all. When I do its a spin fest haha

I am running the same stator that white 7 second fox was
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28" tire calculations sound about right?


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Originally Posted by oscs
28" tire calculations sound about right?


That Looks waaaay high.
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Originally Posted by mistafosta
That Looks waaaay high.
Which part?
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Also what about running a really good converter that will lock up in 3rd? Would that not help the cause quite a bit?
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Originally Posted by oscs
Which part?
For example a 28" tire and 3.54 rear end with 1:1 ratio is 164 mph at 7000rpm


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