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jt76 Jan 12, 2014 11:12 PM

Pac 1218's and a TU2
 
Quick question before I purchase..

Budget build for my '95 mustang. stock 6.0L/S480/ Speed inc Tu2 cam… will these springs suffice? They are rated to .600 and the tu2 is in the .580's.. not sure if throwing boost at this is going to make the 1218's a no go. What say you LS1tech?

5.slow99 Jan 12, 2014 11:56 PM

they should be fine. i assume you probably will not be daily driving it anyway though

GMCtrk Jan 13, 2014 12:50 AM

I had a 1218 snap on my boosted setup, similar cam. Now with Tooley Platinums.

jt76 Jan 13, 2014 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by 5.slow99 (Post 17945770)
they should be fine. i assume you probably will not be daily driving it anyway though

Yeah, maybe a couple days a week just messing around

Originally Posted by GMCtrk (Post 17945813)
I had a 1218 snap on my boosted setup, similar cam. Now with Tooley Platinums.

Did they work well or is that why you upgraded?

yonerhottlt1 Jan 14, 2014 01:41 AM

If it was my build I would still upgrade to some dual .650 lift springs for insurance. Even if nothing breaks you're still risking valve float with the turbo setup.

hellbents10 Jan 14, 2014 07:07 AM

Turbo will not make it prone to valve float, boost has almost zero impact on spring pressures. I have run the 1218s with similar lobes to 800rwhp.

THADD Jan 14, 2014 09:45 AM

Seat pressure is what's important with boost. If you don't have enough the valve can hang open. We have seen this problem with a 76mm starting around 15 psi. It would make 800 or so until that point, after that it would go down hill and show it was rich

qqwqeqwrqwqtq Jan 14, 2014 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by hellbents10 (Post 17948434)
Turbo will not make it prone to valve float, boost has almost zero impact on spring pressures. I have run the 1218s with similar lobes to 800rwhp.

Boost isn't the issue, it's backpressure. I would run a dual spring and aim for 175 on the seat minimum

hellbents10 Jan 14, 2014 01:56 PM

There is a lot going on the other side of the valve. I never had an issue with 130 on the seat at 6500 rpm with the correct turbo???

qqwqeqwrqwqtq Jan 14, 2014 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by hellbents10 (Post 17949298)
There is a lot going on the other side of the valve. I never had an issue with 130 on the seat at 6500 rpm with the correct turbo???

I suppose correct depends on the goal.

A lot of the stuff that can hit peak boost/torque early is going to have some backpressure.

On the intake side you are of course starting the compression cycle at IVC.

On the exhaust side you may see double the pressure you see at the intake and at EVC you'll get valve bounce. (and it noses over hard).

I wouldn't personally set up any turbo LS with 130 on the seat but that's just my opinion :nod:

jt76 Jan 14, 2014 03:58 PM

Thanks for the advice guys, i think I will error on the side of caution and go with some .650 duals :chug:

Blackpanther99 Jan 14, 2014 04:42 PM

Get some from Brian Tooley for a good darn price ;)

cr250r Oct 15, 2015 07:45 PM

They should work for a budget minded goal if you wanna go big pop the valve covers an install dual springs crank the boost up


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