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Old 09-28-2014, 10:16 PM
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Default 98 Camaro build thread. L33, GT45, Tick cam..

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Started on this build about a week ago and I've been gathering parts for about 6 months. This will be somewhat on a budget with the GT45 and Emusa wastegate and BOV. Truly was a Denmah inspired build. Finished my heads/cam last fall and even though it runs great, I spent nearly as much making 420rwhp as I'm hoping it takes to make 6-650.

Let me start by saying I'm learning as I go. I've never fabbed anything and I just bought a welder 3 months ago. Hell, until last fall, I had never even had the heads off a car. I'm glad to say though I've done a decent job learning everything and have somewhat enjoyed the process.

Motor is completely L33 stock other than a custom spec cam from Martin. Heads will be 862s that I've done installed PRC duals on. Pro comp heads studs will be used with MLS gaskets. Bought the Griffin radiator that everyone used and plan to stand it up. Fueling (which I will need some serious help on) will be done using twin 255s and 80# Smartfire injectors. I also bought HP tuners and have learned enough to better the tune I already had on my car so when she blows with the added boost, I take full responsibility.

Hoping to pull the motor tomorrow night. I plan on reprinting the engine bay and the undercarriage while motor/tranny is out. I'm pretty particular about cleanliness. I will get more pics as progress is made but here is the car (horrible iPad pic):



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Sounds like a fun setup in the making...sub'ed
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Max that turbo out lol. Don't be scared.
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I get these L33 for 800 complete. I'm not afraid to blow it a bit..

I've never been around turbo cars at all so it's all new. Still figuring out how everything works together.
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Looks like good progress, keep us updated!
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Well the motor is out. Didn't really have any hangups other than trying to figure out how to get the motor past the cherry picker. Going to try and get it under the jacks tonight and start cleaning a bit before paint. Head gaskets and DEI exhaust wrap came in today so I hope to have everything ready to go back together by the end of the weekend. Probably a long shot though..

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Looking like a good start.

Did you get your Hobbs switch figured out ?
L33 is the aluminum 5.3L ?

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Originally Posted by conan
Looking like a good start.

Did you get your Hobbs switch figured out ?
L33 is the aluminum 5.3L ?
Ya, I hope so anyways. I ordered it and the plug in from racetronix. I'm hoping that will help me out since the fuel system is the only place on the car that I'm worried about because I can't wrap my head about wiring/relays and such.

But yes, the l33 is the aluminum 5.3. I got to wondering about the reluctor wheel. I'm wondering if that's going to cause a problem or not?
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Buddy showed up tonight that's a boat mechanic, he obviously works for beer. In about an hour and a half we made serious progress.





Hoping to get the motor and Trans loose this weekend. I'm Going to order a PTC converter and put it back on the 5.3.
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Got it all tore apart. Everything seemed to go pretty smooth. I believe that I'm going to send another converter back to TCI to let them build it instead if buying a PTC. I'm going to save swapping all the stuff over to the 5.3 and start looking at what all needs to be hacked on so I can get everything cleaned before it goes back.

As far as intercooler placement goes, How much room are most people leaving in the bumper support on the top?? (I know it has to go up more)



Also any advice on notching the radiator support would be nice. It's the same Griffin that everyone is using..




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Sent the converter back to TCI this morning. Sounded like it would be about a 2 week turn around.. Finally got the intercooler mounted the way I wanted it and also got the radiator support notched for the Griffin. Also started painting on the engine bay and undercarriage. Didn't really know how that was going to work but it looks like it will turn out great once it's all said and done.

I'm hoping to have everything ready to go back together once I get the converter back. Then it will be time to fab the hot and cold side and start on the fuel system.





Here you can see what a difference the paint is going to make.. 2 coats primer and 2 paint.



If I order the BMR AC delete panel and I want to keep my heat, is it as simple as unbolting the black box, drilling holes for the upper 2 lines and putting the new panel in? I've never really looked into doing it and if it's a huge headache, it probably won't mess with it.
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If I order the BMR AC delete panel and I want to keep my heat, is it as simple as unbolting the black box, drilling holes for the upper 2 lines and putting the new panel in? I've never really looked into doing it and if it's a huge headache, it probably won't mess with it.[/QUOTE]




I made a delete panel last winter and I made a hole in it to keep the heat. Living in North Dakota I need the heater! I think it will be easy for you to make the hole if you have a saw/dermal that will make the cut. I got mad at the black box and just beat it out....hahaha. Your need to take out the interior to do it right. Here is a picture of the delete panel I made, maybe it will help you.

Im doing a very similar build as you. I've got a 1997 SS with a 01 5.3/4l80E/tick cam/circle d converter. I've been driving around this summer n/a and will be doing the turbo swap this winter, I would have finished last year, but I ran out of money. LS swapping and adding a turbo at the same time gets expensive. Ill be keeping an eye on your build!
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Thanks for the info, I'll definitely give this a shot. If worse comes to worst I can always order the BMR panel. I plan on getting a lot of painting don't tomorrow and may even start on getting rig of that box.
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Here is what I did to get rid of the A/C and keep the heat with a UMI block off plate.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...questions.html
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Originally Posted by conan
Here is what I did to get rid of the A/C and keep the heat with a UMI block off plate.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...questions.html
I'm confused on that. You say the dash has to come out and then another guy saying it doesn't. I'm guess you did it the "right" way and the other way is the "rigged" way of doing?


And on to topic.. good progress. Your tabbing up the kit yourself or you buying one?
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Originally Posted by SCott5
I'm confused on that. You say the dash has to come out and then another guy saying it doesn't. I'm guess you did it the "right" way and the other way is the "rigged" way of doing?


And on to topic.. good progress. Your tabbing up the kit yourself or you buying one?

There is always 2 ways to skin a cat, to each their own...

I can't imagine that cutting it in the car and braking it with a hammer turned out as well as I did it. I trimmed my box 3 times to get it to fit as tight as possible to the block off plate. The seal of the heater box to the block off plate is important so you have good air flow from the blower motor. I also wanted to make sure the fire wall was sealed from the cockpit.
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Thanks for the advise Conan, you've been a huge help so far! As far as pulling the dash, that's not my style man..

Na, I will if I have to but that looks like a ton of work. I'm going to just try and cut it out from the bay and make a plate. I'll try and make a plate on my own and if not I'll just order one from UMI or BMR.

where did you get your vacuum block from if you don't mind me asking? I see your Hobbs is off the side of it. Where does it get it's main vacuum from and what all do you have sourced to it?
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Originally Posted by JustAFooL
Thanks for the advise Conan, you've been a huge help so far! As far as pulling the dash, that's not my style man..

Na, I will if I have to but that looks like a ton of work. I'm going to just try and cut it out from the bay and make a plate. I'll try and make a plate on my own and if not I'll just order one from UMI or BMR.

where did you get your vacuum block from if you don't mind me asking? I see your Hobbs is off the side of it. Where does it get it's main vacuum from and what all do you have sourced to it?


The vacuum block is from Ebay. Just search vacuum manifold, you'll get a ton of different options to choose from.

I removed the EVAP from the intake manifold to clean up the engine bay. So I use that port on the front of the intke and the small port on the back of the intake to "feed" or pull vacuum on the block. I think 1 of those sources would be fine I just tied them together so I didn't have a bunch of stuff blocked off. This is a LS6 intake manifold by the way.

I run the Hobbs switch, Boost gauge, Bypass valve, Snow meth controller, and the HVAC all are tapped in to the vacuum manifold.
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Looks like an awesome build! Just keep us in mind for any go fast parts you need or have any questions just give us a shout at support@tickperformance.com.
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Thanks Joey. I believe I talked to you when I called to have my cam spec'd. Everyone I spoke to with Tick was unbelievable.. Anything that I need I will always check with you guys first. Customer service says it all.


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