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Old 10-01-2014, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I TIG'd mine with 309L So far almost a year in and all good. Would hardly call it pre-heat, but did put a heat gun onto them for a while before welding and after. Not a lot of heat, but I guess a little might help.
You hear any cracking?
Old 10-01-2014, 02:17 PM
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Nope, all seemed fine.
I'm crap at welding, so went pretty slow too. Maybe that helped get a lot of heat into the entire manifold.

Plus I welded as much of the extension piece as I could first before tackling the cast/steel interface again to let it heat up as much as I could

It's been on the car and running for almost a year and no problems at all, which I'm actually surprised at lol.
Turbos directly hanging off the manifolds, although do have one support on the right side below the turbo, and to a degree the downpipes would also offer support.

Low mounted twins. My downpipes extend back about 14-16" then into a normal slip type joint where they join the system. I did not clamp this though, as wanted to leave some room for expansion/contraction with the setup.
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I used a Inconel rod on a set, no cracks so far.
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Weld short section, peen it till it cools, repeat
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Weld short section, peen it till it cools, repeat
(Stress relief) will be a step I add if I have to do this again.
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I think I did whack mine with a small hammer a few times after welding too. Not sure if you'd really class that as peening or not lol.
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Results are in the original post
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Yeah that's about as cast iron as cast iron gets. So what could account for the difference in weldability between LS manifolds and old school stuff then? Molybdenum content?
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That's what I get for listening to the masses. Thanks for doing this! Man it did weld nice though, nothing like the cast stuff I tried to weld in the past.
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That's what I get for listening to the masses. Thanks for doing this! Man it did weld nice though, nothing like the cast stuff I tried to weld in the past.
good ole interwebz speculation.
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Originally Posted by GunmetalGTA
Yeah that's about as cast iron as cast iron gets. So what could account for the difference in weldability between LS manifolds and old school stuff then? Molybdenum content?
I wish I had a good answer for you but I don't.
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Thank you very much for your time, effort and money to provide this info.
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Originally Posted by etijsma
Thank you very much for your time, effort and money to provide this info.
No worries. Hopefully it can help someone else.
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Seems a lot of folks mig with ms wire and have zero issues. Or at least don't have issues they know about.

I'm going to check my re weld job this week.

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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
Seems a lot of folks mig with ms wire and have zero issues. Or at least don't have issues they know about. I'm going to check my re weld job this week. Ron
I need to pull my wrap and watch them closely
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I use coat hanger rod and they have been holding up pretty good for a few years.

Just kidding, I just tig them without preheating and no issues for 4 builds so far
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No pre heat. Solid steel wire .030. Mig'd.
No cracks.no leaks.no issues. EBay male/female vbands.
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The ZL1 manifolds are stainless, so if anyone can use that configuration, I would imagine welding them would be much easier.

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Surprised anyone has any issues ever with cracking etc.

I've never really welded before and just bought a welder, some manifolds, and vbands. Ran maybe 6 tacks and then burned them on with the heat and wire speed cranked.

2 years now and maybe 5-6k miles without issue.
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Originally Posted by 95bowtie
Surprised anyone has any issues ever with cracking etc. I've never really welded before and just bought a welder, some manifolds, and vbands. Ran maybe 6 tacks and then burned them on with the heat and wire speed cranked. 2 years now and maybe 5-6k miles without issue.

Hell you should be surprised you are NOT having issues. There is nothing about the chemical analysis that says otherwise. These manifolds are an anomaly lol


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