Making a stock 05+ 6.0 w/turbo last long
#1
Making a stock 05+ 6.0 w/turbo last long
I went through the sticky but it didn't have too much detail except how long before 5.3 and ls1s blew. It also said a good tune is key along with plenty of fuel but I'de like to know more.
Assuming the tune has adequate fueling with 11.0 or richer a/f under boost, is it mainly rpm limit?? If you were to have 2 perfectly tuned lq4s, but one revved daily to 6600 rpm and the other never saw past 6000 rpm, would the last one live significantly longer?
I'm trying to make a stock 6.0 with 500 rwhp(625 chp) last for over 5 years with daily driving and beating on it in boost 4 months out of the year. Is that realistic? I would like to do this without touching the bottom end at all, am I dreaming?
Assuming the tune has adequate fueling with 11.0 or richer a/f under boost, is it mainly rpm limit?? If you were to have 2 perfectly tuned lq4s, but one revved daily to 6600 rpm and the other never saw past 6000 rpm, would the last one live significantly longer?
I'm trying to make a stock 6.0 with 500 rwhp(625 chp) last for over 5 years with daily driving and beating on it in boost 4 months out of the year. Is that realistic? I would like to do this without touching the bottom end at all, am I dreaming?
Last edited by foxsl; 12-07-2014 at 09:00 PM.
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That is good to hear. I was thinking of tuning to 550-600 rwhp but only visiting that level two track days a year and having fun with 500 rwhp (th400) in a 3000 lb car everywhere else.
pac 1218 valve springs and chromoly 5/16" pushrods (0.080") have been added for extra security
pac 1218 valve springs and chromoly 5/16" pushrods (0.080") have been added for extra security
Last edited by foxsl; 12-07-2014 at 01:18 PM.
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it has a .96 housing with a 68mm turbine. you can run a smaller turbine and it will give you great spool and makes for a fun streetcar just don't go with to much cam. my turbo is small for my 6.0 but it makes great midrange power so I just keep the rpm low and let it work . cam is a 206/212 comp efi truck cam.
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it has a .96 housing with a 68mm turbine. you can run a smaller turbine and it will give you great spool and makes for a fun streetcar just don't go with to much cam. my turbo is small for my 6.0 but it makes great midrange power so I just keep the rpm low and let it work . cam is a 206/212 comp efi truck cam.
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Keep timing low on pump gas...never know if you get a **** batch of fuel.
I hit my LQ9 today with 16psi to impress my friend (which it did), but that's not really smart w/o race fuel at that point. I have timing set to 12* which is less than most run, but the LQ9 has a touch more compression than the LQ4.
I hit my LQ9 today with 16psi to impress my friend (which it did), but that's not really smart w/o race fuel at that point. I have timing set to 12* which is less than most run, but the LQ9 has a touch more compression than the LQ4.
#12
The only fuel we have in my area is 91 octane with no ethanol and 94 octane with 10% ethanol..so yes I don't even know if 10 degrees will be safe but I hope so and will definitely keep the timing low.
I could also buy 110 vp but if I can safely get away with 91 I will go that route at 500 rwhp
I could also buy 110 vp but if I can safely get away with 91 I will go that route at 500 rwhp
Last edited by foxsl; 12-07-2014 at 08:59 PM.
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I hope you don't mind me jacking your post, but I will also be running a LQ4 (Pre 04) in my 02 WS6 vert.
Are your running an Fbody? What kit will your be using? I was thinking of going with the ON3, sine it retains the A/C (I live in Florida). But I was worried that since it was made for a small frame turbo, that it would be too small for a 6.0. I told to look into something around the 101mm trim.
Like everyone, I'd like to see as much potential as possible, without blowing it up, lol... and being that my car is much heavier than the T-Top/Hard Top, I need a few more HP to make up for the vert chassis and my fat ***, lol...
Are your running an Fbody? What kit will your be using? I was thinking of going with the ON3, sine it retains the A/C (I live in Florida). But I was worried that since it was made for a small frame turbo, that it would be too small for a 6.0. I told to look into something around the 101mm trim.
Like everyone, I'd like to see as much potential as possible, without blowing it up, lol... and being that my car is much heavier than the T-Top/Hard Top, I need a few more HP to make up for the vert chassis and my fat ***, lol...
#17
No worries as the more knowledge that's out there the better. Nope not an fbody and what I have gathered is that if you stay t4 with a 6.0, get a large A/r. I was recommended a 1.25 A/r and a turbine wheel of 83mm or larger. Compressor wheel of 75mm+ is also apparently what is preferred.
I, like many others, will be using flipped lq4 exhaust manifolds instead of a kit aside from an intercooler kit. I'm not sure if truck manifolds will clear A/C for you. It gets hot where I live as well in summer but I can live without a/c in my car as I'm not driving around all day. With on3 they let you upgrade the turbo for their kit so you probably won't have any issues getting a t4 from them that suits a 6.0
I, like many others, will be using flipped lq4 exhaust manifolds instead of a kit aside from an intercooler kit. I'm not sure if truck manifolds will clear A/C for you. It gets hot where I live as well in summer but I can live without a/c in my car as I'm not driving around all day. With on3 they let you upgrade the turbo for their kit so you probably won't have any issues getting a t4 from them that suits a 6.0
#18
My power goals are 600 rwhp maximum however I will be supplying enough fuel for a safe 650+ rwhp as that along with a good tune is very important. I have heard great fueling capabilities of a 400 lph in-tank pump by people that continuously shoot to 700 rwhp and still haven't reached that pump's limit. Everyone will say -6AN feed and -6AN return will be sufficient for way over 600 rwhp however to alleviate extra strain due to bends and this and that, I'm going -8AN feed and -6AN return. 80 lb injectors(I'm not using e85 simply because I don't get access to it in my area). Will just be using the factory pcm for tuning and HP tuners for the program.