jhshnh

I've seen very little on the magnacharger kit available for 4th gen f bodies. Is there any feedback? Is it not worth it? What gives?

mac62989

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Trimming the cowl and lowering the k-member are two big things people seem to shy away from. Ive searched plenty of times and it just hasnt been done alot. The MP112 is just limited in its hp potential and its not cheap at $6500. Most people go the procharger route simply because there is more room to grow. Ive always been interested in the TVS2300 kit thats available from hawks but for $7500 you can build a wicked NA setup and thats the route I plan to take.

jhshnh

I agree it's expensive, and I understand why some people opt for procharger or turbo if they're looking for as hp for the dollar. I'm a little surprised that I can't find anyone outside of the writeups that's done it. I would think someone by now has some miles on one.

mac62989

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The few cars I know of from back in the day got sold and I havent seen any new setups in ages. Im sure Hawks does them more than we see posted on the internet but that doesnt help much.

mkvamso

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They fit gtos just fine...lol
I've been very happy with mine
If youre not planning on racing the car a lot I think they're just about perfect

The way they deliver power is perfect for a street car.
Loads of torque at pretty much any rpm
A lot of people think they're too expensive for the peak power they produce but under the curve they're awesome.
I'd think a 500 hp Maggied car would walk a 550 hp Procharger car all day long.

They're very easy to install, make awesome noises, produce tire frying torque, and still make more power than most people will ever need.

jhshnh

My concern would be consistency at the drag strip. I know a lot of the procharger guys have their stuff dialed in. Just wondered how consistent you can make one. I see these cobra mustangs at the track and they're anything but consistent.

mkvamso

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If you hot lap it, it will slow down
Iats start to rise and power goes down
I think that's going to be any positive displacement blower or any fi for that matter
If you let it cool down a bit between runs you won't have a problem

My car ran a best of 11.2@127 on a crap 60 with the maggie in my irs Gto with a tiny converter and an 8.5 radial
They can make decent power, just takes a little work

jhshnh

That's getting down there!

mkvamso

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Definitely had 10s in it
Track wouldn't cooperate

Spun the crank pulley on the crankshaft and ended up running on a stock crank pulley at 6 to 7 psi
Overdrive crank pulley was around 11 psi

Would have easily run 10s at higher boost but 1.8 60s on a slick track didn't do it

Tuskyz28

I wouldn't even bother with a power adder period if all I wanted to do is run 10s. 10s can be done naturally aspirated with a 6 speed and a tab over 500 rwhp with good shocks/tires.

mkvamso

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If love to see your 10 second na 6 speed car
My car weighs almost 4k lbs and trapped 127

Op asked about maggie cars
Not your opinion on fi

Tuskyz28

Not my setup but here is a n/a 6 speed car https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1372582-402-afr-205-s.html
Maggies are cool but like someone mentioned 7500 bucks is a lot of cake. Not to mention the cutting of your cowl.... I would jade to cut up a really nice car. Just my opinion

mkvamso

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You think an afr headed stroked ls2 is going to be cheaper than a maggie?
My car makes 500 lb feet of torque at 2000rpm, that doesn't come close

If your in the market for a Maggie it's for the fun of driving it, not all out numbers

NitrOmm

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Tons of fun & great power under the curve. You will get immune to it at some point as we all do, then your out of blower. With that said:
You are limited to the MP112, the later models & TVS systems are too tall and can't fit in an Fbody. In order to squeeze the 112 under the hood you have to make a few modifications. Space the kmemeber ( about 1/2") and trim the cowl & hood. These things sound intrusive but it's quite simple. You will also need all the standard upgrades as you would with any power adder, rear end, clutch Yada Yada.
For consistency: add meth or. Small shot of N2o. Otherwise as mentioned, the IATs just climb the longer that bad boy is running. The PD blowers saturate with heat and well you don't need to have a rocket science degree to figure out what happens there.
As far as price: keep searching eBay. They are out there. I just sold mine a few months ago, all inclusive system from soup to nuts for about $3,500. You can find them for less than $3k. There is a ton of info over in the GTO forum. The GTO kit is very close to the Fbody kit. Many available, just need a little modification.
Word of waning: they come with their own set of issues ( as does any power adder). Search some of my posts and you can see my saga over the years.
- belt slip, major issue. If you want to push over 7 lbs ... Get the eight rib system ( cha Ching).
- rising IATs ( need the heat exchanger) a must.

Af the end of the day I loved my set up. Just wanted more.
If I can be of assistance just ask.

TT427

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Actually, OP asked if it is worth it.... the general consensus seems to be for the work, cost and potential no its not (not that people arent happy with it). There is a reason why so many are either turbo or centrifugal.

jhshnh

The Hawks maggie tvs2300 is making quite a bit of power. I see on their sight where there's a 6.0 making 719 to the wheels. To me that's impressive and could probably get you in the 9s. Sure it's more money than a budget 383 with spray but it looks like a lot of fun.
The kit from hawks has everything you need for the cowl trimming. But it doesn't say anything about the hood.

mac62989

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^I think it clears the hood fine but you have to hack the car up pretty good for it to fit. Custom wipers and welding a box in the cowl all for $7500+ and thats why you dont see them anywhere..

mkvamso

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It's because they fit f body's easier


Have you ever owned a pd blower car, or even ridden in one.
"Worth it" is pretty subjective