Anybody running a 4.0 pulley with the CBR 8.65 crank pulley? If so what belt length and what position is the idler. Thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by 95-1LE-Z28
(Post 19132380)
Anybody running a 4.0 pulley with the CBR 8.65 crank pulley? If so what belt length and what position is the idler. Thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
(Post 19137381)
If you find out the info, please let me know. Thanks! Bob |
Originally Posted by 95-1LE-Z28
(Post 19132380)
Anybody running a 4.0 pulley with the CBR 8.65 crank pulley? If so what belt length and what position is the idler. Thanks in advance. |
I'm just updating this with some new found knowledge. For a 7.65"/4.00" combo, with a Gates, green belt, 52.5" long, you need the idler in the position furthest from the blower. I have mine in the middle position, and I'm losing boost in the upper rpm range, and finally saw the dust on the bracket last night. As the rpm's rise, and the tensioner takes up the slack, it will bottom out, and no longer be able to take up slack, so that is why the idler needs to be in the further position to allow the tensioner to take up the slack. In a perfect world, we'd have belts that wouldn't stretch, but till then, we have the Aster bracket setup to take up the slack when they do. |
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
(Post 19260858)
I'm just updating this with some new found knowledge. For a 7.65"/4.00" combo, with a Gates, green belt, 52.5" long, you need the idler in the position furthest from the blower. I have mine in the middle position, and I'm losing boost in the upper rpm range, and finally saw the dust on the bracket last night. As the rpm's rise, and the tensioner takes up the slack, it will bottom out, and no longer be able to take up slack, so that is why the idler needs to be in the further position to allow the tensioner to take up the slack. In a perfect world, we'd have belts that wouldn't stretch, but till then, we have the Aster bracket setup to take up the slack when they do. |
Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
(Post 19137381)
If you find out the info, please let me know. Thanks! Bob |
Originally Posted by 95-1LE-Z28
(Post 19279747)
8.65 cank pulley/ 4.0 pulley - 53.7" long 8 rib belt |
Originally Posted by 95-1LE-Z28
(Post 18990760)
4.13 pulley with 8.65 crank pulley - Gates K080537HD. |
Originally Posted by 95-1LE-Z28
(Post 19782448)
I think this belt might have been a bit too tight. I switched to K080545HD with the Idler in the middle hole and that seems to be perfect. |
After blowing through another set of little pulley bearings in three months I decided to try an experiment. I bypassed the little pulley by routing a shorter belt underneath it, basically doing SDCE style belt routing. Recently made 580 whp on a mustang dyno without meth with this new setup which puts me right at my no meth 650 whp dynojet dyno with the Aster 7.65/3.4 setup years ago. So it doesn't seem to be giving up much not running the little pulley. Current setup: 52.5" Belt K080525HD. 8.65 CBR, 3.85" Blower, Idler on Far position, little pulley bypassed. Previous setup: 53.7" Belt K080537HD. 8.65 CBR, 3.85" Blower, Idler on Middle position, with little pulley. Max RPMS of the pulleys with 7.65 and 8.65 crank pulleys: Large Idler Pulley 2.75" Diameter, C=8.64" With 7.65" Crank Pulley: 24.03/8.64=2.78 @ 6500 engine RPM = 18,070 RPM With 8.65" Crank Pulley: 27.17/8.64=3.15 @ 6500 engine RPM = 20,475 RPM Small Idler Pulley 1.75" Diameter, C=5.50" With 7.65" Crank Pulley: 24.03/5.50=4.37 @ 6500 engine RPM = 28,405 RPM With 8.65" Crank Pulley: 27.17/5.50=4.94 @ 6500 engine RPM = 32,110 RPM |
Originally Posted by white01ss
(Post 19785100)
After blowing through another set of little pulley bearings in three months I decided to try an experiment. I bypassed the little pulley by routing a shorter belt underneath it, basically doing SDCE style belt routing. Recently made 580 whp on a mustang dyno without meth with this new setup which puts me right at my no meth 650 whp dynojet dyno with the Aster 7.65/3.4 setup years ago. So it doesn't seem to be giving up much not running the little pulley. Current setup: 52.5" Belt K080525HD. 8.65 CBR, 3.85" Blower, Idler on Far position, little pulley bypassed. Previous setup: 53.7" Belt K080537HD. 8.65 CBR, 3.85" Blower, Idler on Middle position, with little pulley. Max RPMS of the pulleys with 7.65 and 8.65 crank pulleys: Large Idler Pulley 2.75" Diameter, C=8.64" With 7.65" Crank Pulley: 24.03/8.64=2.78 @ 6500 engine RPM = 18,070 RPM With 8.65" Crank Pulley: 27.17/8.64=3.15 @ 6500 engine RPM = 20,475 RPM Small Idler Pulley 1.75" Diameter, C=5.50" With 7.65" Crank Pulley: 24.03/5.50=4.37 @ 6500 engine RPM = 28,405 RPM With 8.65" Crank Pulley: 27.17/5.50=4.94 @ 6500 engine RPM = 32,110 RPM That is good info, thanks for posting it! Bob |
Good info. Is the 8.65" pulley still available? |
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
(Post 19786515)
Good info. Is the 8.65" pulley still available? http://shop.brutespeed.com/CBR-8RIB8...8RIB865PLY.htm Thanks. Bob |
Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
(Post 19786516)
Yes it is, I even have one sitting on my desk right now. http://shop.brutespeed.com/CBR-8RIB8...8RIB865PLY.htm Thanks. Bob I might pick it up this spring when I decide I need more power ;) :devil: |
Belt
Originally Posted by 95-1LE-Z28
(Post 19782448)
I think this belt might have been a bit too tight. I switched to K080545HD with the Idler in the middle hole and that seems to be perfect. Thanks |
Originally Posted by Z QQH 6
(Post 19885801)
Did this belt work out for you? Idler position? Thanks |
Hey guys I've got a 4.38 pulley and the cbr crank pulley . Wondering what I should go with for belt length? Bases on 95 1LE post I'm guessing I should be near the 55 range? |
Originally Posted by BigBadWhitey
(Post 20106817)
Hey guys I've got a 4.38 pulley and the cbr crank pulley . Wondering what I should go with for belt length? Bases on 95 1LE post I'm guessing I should be near the 55 range? K080505HD K080510HD K080514HD K080525HD K080530HD K080537HD K080539HD K080545HD K080550HD K080553HD |
I had seen some of those, I was looking at the gates RPM line of belts and was basing that off 951LE saying the 54.5 worked for his slightly smaller pulley than mine. I think the next RPM belt size up was 55.14 but I'm worried that will be too big! |
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