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Old 03-03-2015, 07:46 AM
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Follow up question. Since I'm going to an SD tune, could I add a second 38mm gate, use the locations for the 02 sensors and weld the that wastegate flanges there? Any issues mounting the gate in the upright position or should I do a sharp angle towards the flow of the exhaust? I could cut and block off the flange location currently. From the pics of it on the old set up, I would have plenty of room(close on the waterpump) I planned on doing 2 O2 bungs on the exhaust when it's made (front bumper). Pics below.






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Old 03-03-2015, 09:44 AM
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IMO with that turbo and that gate placement you have an under sized wastegate. I would feel a lot better with a 44mm gate.
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This is a hotside of aluminized steel I just did for a friend. Its independent tubes so I had to jump off of each and merge again together for the wastegate. I tried to make it flowing it the direction of the exhaust where the gate tubes come off the main ones. Its a street car and this is a JGS 40mm wastegate with a s475 turbo.

IMO 2 wastegates is the best way but in this case my friend didn't wanna pay for two.

On your combo like already stated I think you need a 44-50mm gate to control boost. 38mm is petty small. This 40mm on this car is pretty small but will do for this particular setup.



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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
This is a hotside of aluminized steel I just did for a friend. Its independent tubes so I had to jump off of each and merge again together for the wastegate. I tried to make it flowing it the direction of the exhaust where the gate tubes come off the main ones. Its a street car and this is a JGS 40mm wastegate with a s475 turbo. IMO 2 wastegates is the best way but in this case my friend didn't wanna pay for two. On your combo like already stated I think you need a 44-50mm gate to control boost. 38mm is petty small. This 40mm on this car is pretty small but will do for this particular setup.
Pretty clever placement, flows nicely.
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Originally Posted by oscs
Pretty clever placement, flows nicely.
It's hell to weld in some spots lol. Just tried to get the flow directed right off the main tubes.
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Its not optimal but it will work if you dont want to run really low boost. I have mine mounted the same way, controls fine but mine is a JGS 50mm. I would see if you can get something larger than a 38mm if you are keeping it mounted there.
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Thanks everyone. Looks like I'll go with a bigger single gate.
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Originally Posted by mrstepheneades
It's hell to weld in some spots lol. Just tried to get the flow directed right off the main tubes.
Usually don't want a gate facing down. Condensation can pool there and corrode the gate.
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Or just add a second 38. My 5.3 s480 had one of the 2 38s stick and boost in high gear or load would go over 20 with a 10 psi spring. With the second gate it sits right at 10 psi. If you are keeping the pipe divided a 2nd gate is optimal and if you decide to upgrade to a larger divided turbo in the future you will be set. (Also quickened spool keeping it divided)
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the location shown in your pic will not work well at all unless you have a lot of back pressure going into turbo(which you should not) really need two split off manifolds, we had the same looking setup and would not work at all..
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Updated post #1 with follow up info.

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Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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WG placement would be best with the flow of the gasses w/o a hard turn or going the other direction for that matter even if you're most concerned about controlling the WG so depending upon your target boost levels you can run a small gate but you may get creep and only be able to run a low boost setting that is higher than you'd like.

I've had to run the WG off a manifold before that was almost 90* due to space restrcitions and it def/ made a difference when going from a 38mm Tial to a 46mm PTE WG obvioudly but it still worked ok for what i needed
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To answer your question, and if I were you, I would take off the crossover, and modify it to add another 38mm wastegate. Here is a crossover that I helped design and build with a buddy of mine. His car has rock solid boost control, and I think the whole thing looks sweet. I am just jealous that his crossover is actually better than the one on my own vehicle. haha

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Im space limited using a 60mm gate for my S475. Would this location be ok to control a 12lb spring? Thanks!
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What size gate?
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Originally Posted by Sarg
What size gate?
if you're asking me, it's a 60mm gate
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Yeah with a 60 I am sure you will be fine depending on the turbo and the motor. Now if you are doing a t3 turbo on a 6.0 motor you might have some issues, haha.
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Originally Posted by Ryans99ls1
Its not optimal but it will work if you dont want to run really low boost..
What are you calling low boost? I have a 44mm gate for my S480 with a 8lb spring. Just wondering if it was adequate enough.


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