slowbrakiller

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Would it be possible to run it without the factory intercooled lid and run a FMIC? Would it be possible to get a plate (cover) made to go on top of the supercharger that would be shorter than the factory lid to help with fitment in a f-body?

DavidBoren

Short answer is no.

With some crazy fabrication skills and a lot of ingenuity you could make a top cover for front mount intercooler use, but it's not going to be more compact than the factory lid.

It's already a front feed blower with a jackshaft. Real estate is limited up front, I don't know where you could possibly fit 3" intercooler pipe to and from the blower.

Is it possible to convert an lsa blower to use a front mount intercooler? Yes.

Is it possible inside any reasonable space/ size constraints? No.

chuntington101

Is it possible yes! have GM already done it on a test engine? yes!

GM ran the pipework out the side of the stock lid (not sure which way around) to the intercooler and then back in the other side. If you do some cleaver googling you can probably still find pics. I think the blower and lid were up for sale at one point.

Only issue I could see is air distribution to the ports shrouded by the inlet / outlet pipework. coming out forward and back in at the side would be better still. Wouldn't need too much fab work.

Having said all that it might be easier to do a side mounted blower with a stock intake manifold.

imma_stocker

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Meth/water injection is easier, cheaper, and ADDS power.

chuntington101

And meth on top of decent intercooling (be it air to air or air to water) will add more power!

DavidBoren

AND adding water/meth wasn't part of the original question!

In fact, the question had absolutely nothing to do with what is more effective at cooling, at all.

So, now that we are back to what was originally asked...

Can it be done? The answer to that question is yes.

Can it be done in a manner that makes it lower than the stock lid? Probably not.

imma_stocker

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And now that we're back to answering the question that has already been answered.... let's come up with more solutions. Then we can go back to talking about the same thing.

chuntington101

Simple, get the chargecooling right in the first place! Spec the chargecooler (CC) large enough for the power demands and fit as large heat exchange as possible.

There is lots of space in a LSA supercharger lid for a larger CC. If you can mod / create a new lid then look into the LS9 intercooler setup (already spec'ed for over 600bhp by GM).

Alternatively ditch the LSA idea altogether and look into the Corvette Eforce or Heartbeat blowers. Both fit under the stock corvette hood and are probably the lowest profile superchargers for LS engines. Also they use the Eaton 2300 rotor pack rather than the 1900. Bigger blower = lower rotor speeds = lower intake temps.

I think the Eforce is only a few inch taller than the stock intake.

DavidBoren

The thing about the blower lid is that it is already as flat as it can be without hurting air flow too much. Especially the CTS-V blower. It's lid is further contoured for hood clearance.

Weapon X motorsports, and others, make lid spacers to actually raise the lids with proven performance gains... So GM actually is choking the blower already with the lid that is on it now. Making the lid any shorter really isn't an option.

There are other options, more compact top mount blowers, centrifugal blowers, turbos... but none of that does you any good if you already have an lsa blower and want to use it on your 4th Gen camaro.

The BallSS

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Didn't GM do a 4th Gen camaro with a Corvette ZR1 engine in it without cutting the cowl? Is that the same blower we're talking about here or am I off base lol.

DavidBoren

I thought I have seen an lsa in a 4th Gen camaro before, too. But maybe he has an ls1 and has to use the adapter plates third gen sells.

imma_stocker

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LS9 in a 4th gen
http://www.lsxtv.com/features/car-fe...th-gen-camaro/

70Hemicuda.DK

Hi i working on that problem. I believe that can be done.
I working for a CNC mashine lid, i know et will cost some dollars to make.
Thi first lid is werry expensive. the nexst 10-100 vill cost a smallere amaunt.
i think to Change thi intercooler and relocate.
make 2 coolers located boath side ower the inlet ports for thi heads.
Other Superchargere have today this setup.
cooler system already.
Ther are room for 2 stk 40 mm x 40 mm x 400 mm cooler , That make Moore cooler capecity then the orginal GM Intercooler. There are room for 20 mm down in the blower hausing i think 20 mm most come over thi
I belive thi lid can work at max 50 mm high outside. 40 mm in side air room.
Thi Gm lid is 100 mm.
i find by Google that her are neat for 40 mm to fin ti a Firebird or Camaro.
that will work in the 1998 transam i expect to make the project at.
If i get this to work i will try to get a serie of maby 10-50 lid to try and sell here or at Ebay.
Hawe a nice day Copenhagen member.

Guard dog

Since you are looking for hood clearance an LS9 blower lid adapted to an LSA blower will be the lowest effective lid with the LSA blower. Re-routing would make the blower far less effective and you are better off with a cetrifugal blower at that point.
A CNC lid would be prohibitively expensive when you can get ZL1 lids for $350ish complete brand new.

70Hemicuda.DK

i Lokeked for that lid, i cant find Any dimension , do anyone have hi dimension for the corvette lid ??.
i cant find any Camaro or firebird on Enet there use that lid.
all info is gold. Thanks.