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ryanleiker 02-18-2017 09:11 AM

Belt Walking
 
Anyone else have major belt walking issues?

It seems since I entered the high rpm, high HP world, my belt tensioner hasn't been able to keep up with the rpm jumps.

I had a Duralast tensioner for a while, but literally snapped two of them off... then upgraded to a Gates, which was a much beffier piece, but my belt is still occassionally walking a rib or two off the end of the pulley every time I take the car out.

Anyone have any idea what to look into to fix?

I have found an interestingly loud bearing noise coming from, what I think has to be, my water pump.
There is also a decent amount of shaft play in the water pump pulley. Is this normal?
Is it possible that the water pump, being a Duralast as well, is not parallel to the rest of the pulleys and has worn the bearing out and doesn't keep the belt aligned?

lmt0705 02-18-2017 09:27 AM

You need a solid tensioner, and it sounds like your wp is junk

ryanleiker 02-18-2017 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by lmt0705 (Post 19537638)
You need a solid tensioner, and it sounds like your wp is junk

Is a solid tensioner pretty standard procedure?

lmt0705 02-18-2017 10:03 AM

Very, just bolts in place of the spring one. Katech makes a nice one

TDagen 02-18-2017 10:24 AM

I had the power steering pulley walk forward on the shaft on my 5.3l. Shredded 3 serp belts. After the first belt I replaced the tensioner, still happened. Couldn't figure out what was going on for awhile. They are press on so after many many moons mine apparently vibrated forward. Got a new pulley and pressed it on and have not had a single problem since.

gsxrred1000 02-19-2017 09:16 AM

Just did a ict billet ( available on eBay or amazon or ict billet website) manual tensioner on my turbo 5.3 Camaro and cured my issue of aftermarket spring tensioners not holding up. 46 shipped can't beat it.

jimmyg 02-19-2017 02:01 PM

Sounds like something is out of alignment

ryanleiker 02-19-2017 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by jimmyg (Post 19538547)
Sounds like something is out of alignment

i think the only thing I can see out of alignment is my power steering pulley might be maybe a half a rib too far in.

ryanleiker 02-19-2017 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by gsxrred1000 (Post 19538357)
Just did a ict billet ( available on eBay or amazon or ict billet website) manual tensioner on my turbo 5.3 Camaro and cured my issue of aftermarket spring tensioners not holding up. 46 shipped can't beat it.

So your ICTBillet tensioner has held up pretty well?
ICTBillet is actually right down the street from me in Wichita. Good guys.
I'll probably be getting their manual tensioner soon.

Old Geezer 02-19-2017 04:44 PM

"i think the only thing I can see out of alignment is my power steering pulley might be maybe a half a rib too far in."
Factory TSB on the topic. Most had belt squeak, including on my LQ4. Pressed the pulley flush.. cured the problem.

ddnspider 02-19-2017 05:43 PM

I have a Katech manual tensioner and it's a super nice piece and I can really tension the belt more than a stock spring type tensioner.

ryanleiker 02-19-2017 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Old Geezer (Post 19538641)
"i think the only thing I can see out of alignment is my power steering pulley might be maybe a half a rib too far in."Factory TSM on the topic. Most had belt squeak, including on my LQ4. Pressed the pulley flush.. cured the problem.

cool thanks. At the moment I'm actually running an f-body pump/pulley, which might have the ability to be overinstalled.

gsxrred1000 02-19-2017 07:40 PM

Only had it on for 2 days now. I've been beating the dog out of it from 10-18 psi. Big burnouts and 6800 shifts no sign of moving or losening. Love it. I didn't realize how much ls stuff they sell either. Would recommend to anyone.

SpraydZ 02-19-2017 08:08 PM

Used to have this same problem on my TA. Would chunk the belt pretty much every time I spun it past 7k rpm. Installed the Katech manual, never had another problem and no more walking back to the on ramp to pick up the belt!

Project GatTagO 02-23-2017 05:58 PM

I install a katech tensioner on every project. Done 3 so far. Remember, tighter is not better. As I recall the spec is to use a torque wrench set to 18lb/ft, once it clicks, tighten. Going extra tight only wears out the bearing on the various accessories.

Andrew

Forcefed86 02-23-2017 09:13 PM

If it's aligned properly with a new (quality) tensioner and proper length belt, It's not going to pop off in my experience. (assuming your accessories are spinning true.)

As the belt accelerates and decelerates it shrinks and grows. Manual tensioners don't allow for this and will increase wear on the belt and also don't hold as well. Not a big deal for some, but a properly setup tensioner is better for a "street car" IMO.

ls1charged 02-23-2017 10:59 PM

ive had 2 tensioners from advance fail me, 1 started bending and throwing my belt and another one snapped in half, i believe i have a gates one from Oriellys now and never had another issue

jimmyg 02-24-2017 07:36 AM

Try a fleet runner ( green belt) or a continental elite(Goodyear gatorback) . They won't stretch as much and seem to last. I have run both on my ly6/ whipple 2.9. No slippage @ 11 lbs boost with a 6 rib set up. This is with a spring loaded tensioner .


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