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Rob07002 Jul 25, 2017 04:18 PM

Twin s366's injectors?
 
SBE LQ4
Twin S366
Custom cam .600+ lift
Microsquirt3
110 race fuel
MagnaFuel 4303 -10an feed
Truck manifold and rails

Siemens deka 80's going to be enough?

Ron_Stoppable Jul 25, 2017 04:38 PM

Just go with the Bosch 210s and be done

SLOW SEDAN Jul 25, 2017 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Ron_Stoppable (Post 19685085)
Just go with the Bosch 210s and be done

210's for race fuel haha He's gonna need a new block and heads to handle all the injector.

stevieturbo Jul 25, 2017 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rob07002 (Post 19685056)
SBE LQ4
Twin S366
Custom cam .600+ lift
Microsquirt3
110 race fuel
MagnaFuel 4303 -10an feed
Truck manifold and rails

Siemens deka 80's going to be enough?

Depends how much boost/power you aim to make.

They could very easily be enough, or not a fucking chance lol

svslow Jul 25, 2017 08:03 PM

Can't use the 210s on the Micro.

Rob07002 Jul 26, 2017 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 19685121)
Depends how much boost/power you aim to make.

They could very easily be enough, or not a fucking chance lol

Looking to make 800-900 RWHP on 20-25#'s

SLOW SEDAN Jul 26, 2017 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Rob07002 (Post 19685642)
Looking to make 800-900 RWHP on 20-25#'s

Magnafuel 4303 and 80's should get you there on race fuel. They are rated 845cc at 43.5PSI but if you need more then raise your base pressure, I normally start at 58PSI where they are flowing closer to 1000cc.

stevieturbo Jul 26, 2017 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rob07002 (Post 19685642)
Looking to make 800-900 RWHP on 20-25#'s

You should be fine at that sort of level. You probably wouldnt get much more from them though.

Rob07002 Jul 27, 2017 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 19685952)
You should be fine at that sort of level. You probably wouldnt get much more from them though.

What would be the next step up that would work with MS3? I have to buy them anyway and wouldn't it make sense to go as large as I can get away with with room to grow?

stevieturbo Jul 27, 2017 03:58 PM

You can get high impedance injectors up to around 2000cc. Larger injectors can get more tricky if the ecu you are using cannot do full sequential...so no idea whether you are doing that or not.

But you can get all number of sizes from 800cc right up to 2000c, just whatever you want really.
Some are pricier than others though, but it is worth getting good injectors. They're kind of important to your engine, but also factor in some can be fussy on fuel type so ensure whatever you buy is compatible with the fuel you are using..

Rob07002 Jul 27, 2017 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 19687323)
You can get high impedance injectors up to around 2000cc. Larger injectors can get more tricky if the ecu you are using cannot do full sequential...so no idea whether you are doing that or not.

But you can get all number of sizes from 800cc right up to 2000c, just whatever you want really.
Some are pricier than others though, but it is worth getting good injectors. They're kind of important to your engine, but also factor in some can be fussy on fuel type so ensure whatever you buy is compatible with the fuel you are using..

Most appreciated Stevie. I'm new to all the FI and EFI crap, so tough to get up to speed while not shooting myself in the foot. All on a budget too.

Any preferences that you know will work, let me know. You and this board have been very helpful.

stevieturbo Jul 27, 2017 04:36 PM

Really best to call an injector sales place local to you and discuss.

Personally I'd prefer ASNU for bigger stuff, but some like ID, FIC, etc etc

Dennis5374 Jul 28, 2017 01:12 AM

I have a very similar combo , forged 370 and twin s366's
i use twin xspower 44mm gates
as for injectors I went with fic 127lb/hr
I'm running 93/ water meth
my fuel system consists of a stock 3/8 feed and 340lph in tank pump
a secondary 6an feed with a 380lph inline pump, both y together and enter each rail at the back of the intake, front rails are connected by my boost referenced regulator , and return back too the tank.

Rob07002 Jul 28, 2017 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Dennis5374 (Post 19687698)
I have a very similar combo , forged 370 and twin s366's
i use twin xspower 44mm gates
as for injectors I went with fic 127lb/hr
I'm running 93/ water meth
my fuel system consists of a stock 3/8 feed and 340lph in tank pump
a secondary 6an feed with a 380lph inline pump, both y together and enter each rail at the back of the intake, front rails are connected by my boost referenced regulator , and return back too the tank.

I plan on twin precision 40 gates and a 60 bov. Should be enough to control boost, yes?

Do you run a truck intake? What engine management? What power your making? Any links to your build? Very interested.
Thanks

roastin240 Jul 31, 2017 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Dennis5374 (Post 19687698)
I have a very similar combo , forged 370 and twin s366's
i use twin xspower 44mm gates
as for injectors I went with fic 127lb/hr
I'm running 93/ water meth
my fuel system consists of a stock 3/8 feed and 340lph in tank pump
a secondary 6an feed with a 380lph inline pump, both y together and enter each rail at the back of the intake, front rails are connected by my boost referenced regulator , and return back too the tank.

I have been considering these injectors. Are these a modified unit? I am very particular about idle quality and driveability as I tune a lot of vehicles on the side. I am also running a forged 5.3 so injector pulsewidth will be lower. When you get near min pulsewidth the fuel delivered per shot has a higher variance (higher standard deviation) and this results in erratic and unrepeatable behavior. This goes back to the infamous "dynamically matched" injectors fro ID. It really does make a difference if you care as much as I do about this part of the tune.

How have these injectors worked out for you? Which engine management system do you have and was the injector data acceptable as a drop in set of parameters or did they need adjustment? Thanks for your feedback.

Rob07002 Aug 3, 2017 08:45 AM

Another quick question. Twin 38mm, 40mm, or 44mm waste gates to control boost? Looking at:
Tial
TurboSmart
Precision
JGS

stevieturbo Aug 3, 2017 10:29 AM

I've Precision 46's, fine after 3 years.

Rob07002 Aug 3, 2017 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 19692971)
I've Precision 46's, fine after 3 years.

Will 2 38's be enough gate for s366's on a 6.0?

Nali6.2 Aug 3, 2017 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rob07002 (Post 19692887)
Another quick question. Twin 38mm, 40mm, or 44mm waste gates to control boost? Looking at:
Tial
TurboSmart
Precision
JGS

turbosmart has surpassed tial in my opinion.

stevieturbo Aug 3, 2017 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rob07002 (Post 19693169)
Will 2 38's be enough gate for s366's on a 6.0?

Depends how well it's plumbed and how low you want boost to go.


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