Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Economy blow off valve

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-01-2018, 03:31 PM
  #21  
9 Second Club
 
stevieturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 13,616
Received 178 Likes on 154 Posts

Default

That design is very old and uncommon.

Both the Vortech Mondo I first used and the Big Red thereafter operate exactly the same as every other BOV on the market ( and you could say exactly the same as any wastegate )
Old 03-01-2018, 03:39 PM
  #22  
8 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
Forcefed86's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 7,849
Received 676 Likes on 499 Posts

Default

WG’s are closed when at idle and cruise too though… and they don’t need a filter.

You could put a lighter spring in my 50mm Tial knockoff but would sure be hard to add a filter to it. I wouldn’t want to suck dirt in at idle and cruise is my point. As these were the BOVs’ that were being suggested.

Old 03-01-2018, 03:56 PM
  #23  
9 Second Club
 
stevieturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 13,616
Received 178 Likes on 154 Posts

Default

He's asking for a turbo application, so no need for a lighter spring though.
Old 03-03-2018, 02:24 PM
  #24  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
forcd ind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: woodbine, md
Posts: 4,115
Received 228 Likes on 161 Posts

Default

Ended up getting the tial knock off and also a steel flange, i'll ck the vac on it and see where it opens, weld it on tomorrow. Says made in USA, most not likely, lol.
Old 03-03-2018, 02:39 PM
  #25  
Launching!
iTrader: (9)
 
Modchevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 288
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by forcd ind
Ended up getting the tial knock off and also a steel flange, i'll ck the vac on it and see where it opens, weld it on tomorrow. Says made in USA, most not likely, lol.
Fake USA stamp means U Sucka Again Lol. Also wouldn't a open Bov give you tuning problems like a open IAC at idle?
Old 03-03-2018, 07:41 PM
  #26  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
krazy4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

I don't run one.
Old 03-05-2018, 07:55 AM
  #27  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (96)
 
01ssreda4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Turnin' Wrenches Infractions: 005
Posts: 24,241
Likes: 0
Received 79 Likes on 70 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Modchevelle
Fake USA stamp means U Sucka Again Lol. Also wouldn't a open Bov give you tuning problems like a open IAC at idle?
IAC air bypasses the throttle blade. Any air or opening in the intake tract is still controlled by the throttle blade. BIG difference.
Old 03-08-2018, 10:55 PM
  #28  
TECH Enthusiast
 
ElQueFør's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

My WG got stuck open shortly after I got mine going. Probably from being carboned up from running pig rich while I was still trying to get the PCM dialed in lol.

"Made in USA..... by importing globally sourced parts to a dock on the west coast"
Old 03-12-2018, 11:28 AM
  #29  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
customblackbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,940
Received 76 Likes on 66 Posts
Default

I run the $42 Tial Q 50mm speed daddy style with no complaints. VS racing sent me one like a year or so ago and the piston was offset machined in the bore and had a gap around the sealing O-ring. VS racing refunded me the money and I went with the $42 ebay one as they are the same. parts swap even with "real" Tials as well. Ive also run the wyntom brand from ebay with great success (good quality but cheap) on my builds. For my supercharger setup I ran the open air turbo style BOV that I wrapped with "green UNI" filter foam which keeps the crap out at idle and low speeds... it also helps cut down on the "street sweeper" noise. I runt he $42 speed daddy on my current turbo setup.

Honestly I feel like Tial is overpriced for there BOVs, they shouldnt cost that much and I wont pay it. I would think $100-150 max is still a large profit for them.
Old 03-12-2018, 11:39 AM
  #30  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
King23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: KY.
Posts: 453
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

It looks like the tial knock offs and xs power bov are priced around the same give or take a little I'm not sure what the difference would be between the two but I would think close? And both for price point of a budget
Old 03-14-2018, 09:52 PM
  #31  
TECH Enthusiast
 
ElQueFør's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

I'm sure the Tials are nice. But for a valve with a spring and as simple as that is I see no problem with running the knock offs.

Hope I don't jinx myself by saying that lol!
Old 03-16-2018, 08:28 AM
  #32  
TECH Fanatic
 
LSswap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,136
Received 502 Likes on 326 Posts
Default

In an automatic car, you can get by without one (although I still have one).
In a stick, you want one. Without a BOV in a stick, ...... you built boost, now you're about to shift. take your foot off the gas while boost is still high and now, two things happen. First there is a scary pressure against the throttle blade on one side and vacuum on the other. Second there is no pressure at the turbine and lots of pressure at the compressor, so the turbo stalls. Now you have to spool it up again just in time for the next gear.
Old 03-16-2018, 09:13 AM
  #33  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Bbcpoweredz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Anybody using the $100 one from RPS? 50mm and looks good. Plus it’s racepartsolutuons so you know it’s gotta be good quality. Probably order one in the next few weeks if there’s any input.
Old 03-16-2018, 10:07 AM
  #34  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
King23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: KY.
Posts: 453
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Bbcpoweredz28
Anybody using the $100 one from RPS? 50mm and looks good. Plus it’s racepartsolutuons so you know it’s gotta be good quality. Probably order one in the next few weeks if there’s any input.
Keep us posted if you order one, I'm in the market for two soon and budget won't allow two Tials right now, leaning towards the eBay or xs power to hold me over you funds allow.
Old 03-16-2018, 10:34 AM
  #35  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
kbracing96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Sutherlin OR
Posts: 8,929
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Bbcpoweredz28
Anybody using the $100 one from RPS? 50mm and looks good. Plus it’s racepartsolutuons so you know it’s gotta be good quality. Probably order one in the next few weeks if there’s any input.
I've bought 100's of them. All I use in my kits. Never had a problem with any of them.
Old 03-16-2018, 02:25 PM
  #36  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Bbcpoweredz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kbracing96
I've bought 100's of them. All I use in my kits. Never had a problem with any of them.
Sounds good to me. I gotta order my cold side piping from wade anyway so I’ll add that too the order.
Old 04-02-2018, 12:54 PM
  #37  
TECH Enthusiast
 
ElQueFør's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

My knock off BOV is still working like a champ!




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:02 AM.