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Old 05-25-2018, 02:42 AM
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Hi All,

I have a complete Gen.3 L33 and I was wondering if it was built using a forged/steel Crank/Rods/Pistons with ARP bolts would the block hold up to 1000bhp (flywheel) or would it flex and wreck itself?

Does anyone know of one of these blocks being used in this sort of build and did it hold together?

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A quick search would've answered this 1000 times over.
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Personally, I’d disassemble it, inspect and clean everything, re-gap the top rings to .025”, re-assemble it keeping all the parts in the orig location, add the cam of your choice and run it.

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Totally pointless to do all that for only 1,000hp. This isn’t a honduh.
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The block is good for 30lbs
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
A quick search would've answered this 1000 times over.
1001 Now....
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I'm in the U.K. and we're not as up to speed with LS engines as you guys in the US and the L33 is particularly rare over here, it took me almost three months to get mine imported. Parts are just as hard to come by so I need to be certain about what I'm doing as a second chance resulting from a mistake will take months to sort out.
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L33 blocks are the base for a lot of serious builds. ERL used them as their base to build super deck blocks that have been WELL beyond 1000hp but as they sit box stock 30lb builds have been done with success. The 4 head bolts become your road block at that stage
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
Personally, I’d disassemble it, inspect and clean everything, re-gap the top rings to .025”, re-assemble it keeping all the parts in the orig location, add the cam of your choice and run it.

Listen to what this guy says. He has walked the road of SBE and forged.
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Originally Posted by cam
L33 blocks are the base for a lot of serious builds. ERL used them as their base to build super deck blocks that have been WELL beyond 1000hp but as they sit box stock 30lb builds have been done with success. The 4 head bolts become your road block at that stage
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Thank you, please excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by 30lb build? Someone else mentioned 20lb. Over here in the UK we talk about psi for forced induction engines.
Many thanks.
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30lb build= 30psi build. PSI is pounds per square inch.
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http://www.dragzine.com/news/fastest...rld-goes-7-81/
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Originally Posted by Sunbeam Fanatic
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Thank you, please excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by 30lb build? Someone else mentioned 20lb. Over here in the UK we talk about psi for forced induction engines.
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Correct, lbs of boost.

Good link above fellas thanks
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Originally Posted by cam
Correct, lbs of boost.

Good link above fellas thanks
30lbs of boost literally means nothing without knowing the rest of the setup and turbo size.
30lbs on a 62mm turbo is a lot different than 30lbs on a 88mm turbo for example.
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My info is a suggestion, a range, not very exact but it sounds like Krazy4 knows better and I always want to learn more so perhaps you could be so decent to write up a point by point explanation to inform us all on the limits of boost on the L33 and where their exact peak psi/power levels are? Would save us all a lot of time and if its good we could ask the mods to make it a sticky

thanks krazy4
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Originally Posted by cam
My info is a suggestion, a range, not very exact but it sounds like Krazy4 knows better and I always want to learn more so perhaps you could be so decent to write up a point by point explanation to inform us all on the limits of boost on the L33 and where their exact peak psi/power levels are? Would save us all a lot of time and if its good we could ask the mods to make it a sticky

thanks krazy4

the block is strong enough for sure. invest in some decent head gaskets and studs. the small bore size has a very beefy liner, don't be tempted to bore it out, plenty of good pistons out there from diamond and wiseco and others.
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Originally Posted by cam
My info is a suggestion, a range, not very exact but it sounds like Krazy4 knows better and I always want to learn more so perhaps you could be so decent to write up a point by point explanation to inform us all on the limits of boost on the L33 and where their exact peak psi/power levels are? Would save us all a lot of time and if its good we could ask the mods to make it a sticky

thanks krazy4
Someone sounds a little angry. You're welcome.
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The article linked is about Jon Capizzi's Mustang. I know the build well, his first turbo (S485) now resides in my Camaro. He checked all the ring caps,, they were opened to .025. The tuning window with stock pistons and heads is smaller, so when you ask around you find that folks run less timing.

I have an iron gen 3 5.3 in mind, all stock including the 799 heads, and my plan over the winter is to source an L33 and put forged pistons and rods in it for 2019.
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Originally Posted by krazy4
Someone sounds a little angry. You're welcome.
Anger? not one iota of anger, a little bait to see if you would write up a sticky worthy article where perhaps I and everyone else might learn something new? Guilty the sarcasm thing doesnt work for bupkiss over the net. I have no idea who you are, and maybe you know boat loads that I can learn from so I threw bait, I get guys posting up all sorts of good info that way occasionally. Or maybe not, how could I know? If you did have bucket tons of previously unknown info to share my earlier post would have shaken it out im sure. Seeing as your engaging in some personal retorts me thinks you know equal or less than I. In which case the previous post also speaks for itself

more bait lol
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Originally Posted by cam
Anger? not one iota of anger, a little bait to see if you would write up a sticky worthy article where perhaps I and everyone else might learn something new? Guilty the sarcasm thing doesnt work for bupkiss over the net. I have no idea who you are, and maybe you know boat loads that I can learn from so I threw bait, I get guys posting up all sorts of good info that way occasionally. Or maybe not, how could I know? If you did have bucket tons of previously unknown info to share my earlier post would have shaken it out im sure. Seeing as your engaging in some personal retorts me thinks you know equal or less than I. In which case the previous post also speaks for itself

more bait lol
A sticky quality article isn't needed. Your response speaks for itself lol



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