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Anyone running the Hooker Turbo LS cast manifolds run into this issue??

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I have a 67 Chevelle. I swapped in a 5.3 and I’m running a gt45 turbo. I decided to run the hooker turbo ls manifolds (which are great for tight spaces) and their crossover tube. Engine is tuned. Made 600rwhp through a th400 and Moser 9” on 14lbs.

After putting about 1400 miles on this setup, the flex joint in the cross over tube developed a nickel sized hole in it. Holley warrantied it. Installed the new one and now I have about 2000 miles on the setup (about 600 miles on the replacement crossover tube) and it looks like this. Holley again is warrantying it but I don’t want to keep doing this every 1000 miles or so.

Anyone running their manifolds/crossover tube run into this?
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And when fitted, does it simply slot into the place totally unstressed ?
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
And when fitted, does it simply slot into the place totally unstressed ?

yes. That’s the first thing I checked for when it was new for the original and the replacement.
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Probably using a cheap flex joint. Diesel guys have this issue.
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Yea cheap flex joint! Just cut it out and have an exhaust shop weld in a better one. Something like a vibrant brand turbo version. Would last alot longer!
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https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s....php?t=2550979
this covers it very well.... you need ore turbo flex joint that has a sleeve in the center.....
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A support brace either side of the flex, or across it might help.

No doubt as Holley, it is cheap Chinese stuff, but say if you had a lot of pressure and heat in there, it could just be trying to blow itself apart and the flexi section just cant handle it. So a strain relieve might help.
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I was thinking about just getting the Vibrant turbo flex bellow. Like 30ish bucks but beats the hell out of changing this crossover pipe more frequently than the engine oil lol
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Those are still no good, I had one blow out in 500 miles.... look up spd pre turbo flex pipe and that’s what you want. Inside looks like this-


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all stainless besides 321 has a limited number of heat cycles, and even 321 will fail if there is any loading.

the naked bellows stuff I use post wastegate where there is never a huge pressure differential

the interlocking inner, braided external stuff works good if you buy mild steel and dont wrap it. vibrant says it's fine, spd says it's not...up to you really

the best solution I have found is a double slip fit weld on. it allows expansion and rotation and some axial loading.

also good is the spd slip joint inner that has a naked bellow outer.
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Tis the season for blowouts....
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Any issue with just running a solid pipe from one side to the other? I can’t imagine it warping that much
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Originally Posted by The0nlyon3
Any issue with just running a solid pipe from one side to the other? I can’t imagine it warping that much
You can, but sometimes you wind up with stuff like this. Which is why some guys use the flex pipe.

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Originally Posted by Game ova
You can, but sometimes you wind up with stuff like this. Which is why some guys use the flex pipe.

Yikes!!!
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Originally Posted by Game ova
You can, but sometimes you wind up with stuff like this. Which is why some guys use the flex pipe.
Looks like a really shitty weld with no penetration. I don't have any flexes in mine and have had one crack yet
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
the best solution I have found is a double slip fit weld on. it allows expansion and rotation and some axial loading.

also good is the spd slip joint inner that has a naked bellow outer.
Double slip with support is the best option.
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As stated I'd run the double slip. They really only allow movement down the axis but are robust as you have 3 walls

A 321 double slip from stainless headers is 50 bucka

I have 3 in use here and all 321

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I can see each bellow.... one near each manifold flange and one middle.... why is the one is the middle welded completely? And I’m guessing the ones on each side near the manifold are able to be taken apart? Just not familiar with these flanges
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Originally Posted by 47ford
I can see each bellow.... one near each manifold flange and one middle.... why is the one is the middle welded completely? And I’m guessing the ones on each side near the manifold are able to be taken apart? Just not familiar with these flanges
All of them still slide, the middle isn't welded solid



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