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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
God damn! Reading this thread has me wore out...

steve is right. Garret.. hands down... makes the best core. That’s a fact.

Belo is just overpriced. Garret is twice the core for the same money.

Steve is also wrong, most CHEAP Chinese Intercooler I’ve seen do not have cast end tanks. Nor do they have fabricated sheet metal intakes. They are more like cheap “stamped” sheet metal ends.

The better Chinese intercooler do have cast end tanks. Like Treadstone, Summit, etc etc.

If your running 9psi on a SBE build, then anything will work cuz your not even making big power. If you make a million hp and your junk *** intercooler keeps your iat without losing 4psi through it, then badass man keep killing the game. If you wanna buy a core and weld yourself the best intercooler money can buy, then more power to ya.

This **** is out of hand 😂
We are trying to keep each other entertained in between any actual innovations in racing technology. Chill and laugh at the discourse.
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gametech
We are trying to keep each other entertained in between any actual innovations in racing technology. Chill and laugh at the discourse.

No innovation from China ! apart from maybe coronavirus
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 07:49 AM
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Old Feb 8, 2020 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gametech
We are trying to keep each other entertained in between any actual innovations in racing technology. Chill and laugh at the discourse.
😂 I am laughing! 😂
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 11:12 PM
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Got a good laugh outta that😂
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:42 AM
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I know this is old...

I think the big issue no one talks about is pressure drop. That's why in RH's test the bigger IC picked up boost. Also those were 2 "nice" vertical intercoolers. Get the typical $120 horizontal core ebay 3" core everyone used and dyno and log the pressure drop at 25lbs. It's bad! Even if it does seem to do OK on charge temps. I logged 30* difference between the 1245 Treadstone and the cheap ebay 3" unit at 20lbs. Also picked up a few psi at like DC. Now it seems people have switched to the 4" ebay cores. I have no experience with those.

Here is some info on the Treadstone Core density

https://www.treadstoneperformance.co...explained/5254
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 12:32 PM
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I'm gonna throw CX Racing out there too.
I ran one of the 4" units on my 4th gen F-Body and while I was running fairly low boost (12-14lbs.) the car still made 700whp on pump gas and IAT's very rarely ever got higher than ambient temperature.
It also didn't seem to obstruct airflow to the radiator too significantly since I didn't experience any overheating problems.
I bought mine off eBay for $200 I believe, all in all a good solution for my particular combination/goals.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 12:36 PM
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I'm gonna throw CX Racing out there too.
I ran one of the 4" units on my 4th gen F-Body and while I was running fairly low boost (12-14lbs.) the car still made 700whp on pump gas and IAT's very rarely ever got higher than ambient temperature.
It also didn't seem to obstruct airflow to the radiator too significantly since I didn't experience any overheating problems.
I bought mine off eBay for $200 I believe, all in all a good solution for my particular combination/goals.

A lot of IAT sensors are very slow...and often the reason many think their charge temps are low.....it's just the sensor is so slow to respond it hasn't warmed up yet.
And many would rarely hold the car at WOT long enough, to see a steady increase to a plateau of actual temperatures.

A quick but basic test would be to fire a heat gun onto the sensor and log it to see how quick it responds, or dunk the sensor in some boiling water. and see how long it takes to get up to correct temp.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
A lot of IAT sensors are very slow...and often the reason many think their charge temps are low.....it's just the sensor is so slow to respond it hasn't warmed up yet.
And many would rarely hold the car at WOT long enough, to see a steady increase to a plateau of actual temperatures.

A quick but basic test would be to fire a heat gun onto the sensor and log it to see how quick it responds, or dunk the sensor in some boiling water. and see how long it takes to get up to correct temp.
My IAT sensor moves plenty fast, have maxed it out in 4 seconds. I don't think having a faster sensor will help in that situation.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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Clearly better charge cooling would though.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
A lot of IAT sensors are very slow...and often the reason many think their charge temps are low.....it's just the sensor is so slow to respond it hasn't warmed up yet.
And many would rarely hold the car at WOT long enough, to see a steady increase to a plateau of actual temperatures.

A quick but basic test would be to fire a heat gun onto the sensor and log it to see how quick it responds, or dunk the sensor in some boiling water. and see how long it takes to get up to correct temp.
I had used a Fast Acting IAT sensor but with that said I don't actually know how fast it really was since I never compared it to the factory sensor it replaced.
It would change pretty quickly on my hand held but again, nothing to compare against.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Clearly better charge cooling would though.
Mehh a lot of the IAT drama is over rated, plus no need to add weight and additional piping for an intercooler if you can run your cage cert without one. .
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Mehh a lot of the IAT drama is over rated, plus no need to add weight and additional piping for an intercooler if you can run your cage cert without one. .
But it looks really cool lol.
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If you douse the IAT sensor with meth, it never changes temps.

Perfection.
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
If you douse the IAT sensor with meth, it never changes temps.

Perfection.

I spray before mine....and that is certainly not my experience. Although I guess it depends how mouch dousing is....and what ambient it started at, and what temp the methanol is...etc etc.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I spray before mine....and that is certainly not my experience. Although I guess it depends how mouch dousing is....and what ambient it started at, and what temp the methanol is...etc etc.
Hasn't your build been down for a year?
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Hasn't your build been down for a year?
Ouch
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Ouch
Too much? I'm just tired of hearing that if you don't spend $$$$ on XYZ parts of YYYY brand and do it ZZZZZ way then its wrong.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Too much? I'm just tired of hearing that if you don't spend $$$$ on XYZ parts of YYYY brand and do it ZZZZZ way then its wrong.
LOL, in my world that timeline is 5 turbo setups disproving peoples interwebz theory's. Absolutely, a running car trumps a broke car every time, no matter what parts are on it!

People that shop exclusively name brand car parts are the same ones buy a Gucci wallet but never get to open it at the strip club.
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