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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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U guys to me are seriously one of the best if not the best in the LS1 business ...so what do you guys think of the STS set up? Is it a worthy turbo?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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I agree, they are great to work with.

So I know if they didnt think it was worthy, they wouldnt sell it.

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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as much as i hate the sts turbo...it puts down good number for the price and i think it would be much better than a p1sc...now if you got a d1sc i would say it is even IMO but most likely not in others opinion...
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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I love it. Great company to deal with.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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as much as i hate the sts turbo...it puts down good number for the price and i think it would be much better than a p1sc...now if you got a d1sc i would say it is even IMO but most likely not in others opinion...
well since I owned both and dynoed both at 10 psi, the sts crushed the d1, there was no comparison. It made more power an tq with a smaller cam and 8 degrees less timing as well. The peak was alot sooner as well.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
well since I owned both and dynoed both at 10 psi, the sts crushed the d1, there was no comparison. It made more power an tq with a smaller cam and 8 degrees less timing as well. The peak was alot sooner as well.
It's refreshing to hear from someone that has actually swapped and compared
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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i've not had either i just don't like a rear mount setup...i'd want twins i think if went forced induction
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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can you give us details of the "smaller cam" i'm sure that is why it peaked earlier but can't really argue the power...unless you had a cam that wasn't made for forced induction...i'm glad you are happy with your setup...
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can you give us details of the "smaller cam" i'm sure that is why it peaked earlier but can't really argue the power...unless you had a cam that wasn't made for forced induction...i'm glad you are happy with your setup...
226/220 on a 115 vs a 230/234 on 114 for the supercharger. Both my setups were ideal for what they were. Although the new setup drives much more like stock, If I run the 24 degrees timing like I did with the d1 I would be over 700 at 10 psi
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
It's refreshing to hear from someone that has actually swapped and compared
just trying to give a real world example. 777 is totally entitled to his opinion though, he didnt bash or come in and say STS sucks or whatever. I respect his opinion but still though I should chime in
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
It's refreshing to hear from someone that has actually swapped and compared
One does not have to run both to know that a turbo system is always superior. Just look at the weight penalties to run a turbo in the sanctions. It's obvious.

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BTW - I'm no fan of a muffler-turbo, I just know the reality concerning the benefits of a well-designed turbo system, even if others do not. Incontestably, the STS has never put down any number that can back up the ridiculous dyno claims. Yes, PUREVL, that means you, too.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SS00Blue

BTW - I'm no fan of a muffler-turbo, I just know the reality concerning the benefits of a well-designed turbo system, even if others do not. Incontestably, the STS has never put down any number that can back up the ridiculous dyno claims. Yes, PUREVL, that means you, too.
One could easily point that same question at you

I agree with you that the turbo is superior especially when you factor parasitic loss through the belt driven blower setup.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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I personally don't see WHY they would see an STS kit over their kit..... BUT I like speed inc and am considering having them do me a kit for my car........ BUT NEVER will the word or phrase STS come near my car. I don't even want to be in the same town as an sts kit.

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SS00Blue
One does not have to run both to know that a turbo system is always superior. Just look at the weight penalties to run a turbo in the sanctions. It's obvious.

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BTW - I'm no fan of a muffler-turbo, I just know the reality concerning the benefits of a well-designed turbo system, even if others do not. Incontestably, the STS has never put down any number that can back up the ridiculous dyno claims. Yes, PUREVL, that means you, too.
ya whatever, like I give a **** what you think. I explained it 15 times, track was closed, turbo was on in november. I will give you track times in spring so you can shut your cockholster about it
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The Guy in MY 99TA
I personally don't see WHY they would see an STS kit over their kit..... BUT I like speed inc and am considering having them do me a kit for my car........ BUT NEVER will the word or phrase STS come near my car. I don't even want to be in the same town as an sts kit.

Josh S.
get FI first then talk ****...thanks, we do enjoy your pipe dreaming though
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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I think the idea of the sts kit is sweet, and the price is excellent. I just don't like where it sits under the car. Just not my type of deal. Not worth bashing though.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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For all you guys who "hate" STS kits and "don't even want be in the same town as one" blah blah blah why don't you just shut the hell up. You guys make absolutely no positive contribution to the conversations here so if you see a STS thread why don't you just stay out of it. Half the time you guys don't even have forced induction setups according to your sigs. I don't know what your so threatened by or what your problem is that would make you "hate" someone elses setup. This board is all about enthusiasts who like to go fast and everyone has their own preference on how to do it. Take your "hate" bullshit and go somewhere else.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by VaNDaL*SS*
U guys to me are seriously one of the best if not the best in the LS1 business ...so what do you guys think of the STS set up? Is it a worthy turbo?

Thanks for the compliment.

Generally, I like to start out with power/driveability/intended purpose goals, and design the car to meet them.

I can't really give any evaluation on the STS system as we have not sold, installed, or tuned one.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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Yeah this has totally strayed from what i wanted to know...I want to know what speed inc thinks of the STS turbo. i know that they wont say it is better than their kit, but if it would be good for someone like me, who doesnt want to make my car a total drag car. My car is going to be daily driven and i want it in the 11's and still be able to pass smog. if i lived in a state that was very leniant about smog i would go with Speed Inc.'s kit because it ******* rocks, but it would be totally illegal for me to posses as a daily driven street legal car... so in the end Speed Inc. do you guys think that the STS turbo is a good turbo kit for a daily driven street legal car? Or would you guys personally go with the Procharger kit?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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**** u answered my question again before i could post...haha cool i was just curious..ive seen ur intmd8 car on one of my friends street racing videos. Just though what do you guys think of the concept?
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