Whats the best stroker (cubic inches) to build for boost
06-08-2005, 03:18 PM
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Whats the best stroker (cubic inches) to build for boost pure street car
high octane gas all the time OK
main focus....50mph to 180mph runs
daily driver
1,000 RWHP a must
can my current motor do it with the addition of a SC'er, the obvious piston changes would be done. It would also get the FAST 90mm stuff and the new AFR 225 heads and a cam upgrade.
EXPLAIN YOUR CHOICE?
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high octane gas all the time OK
main focus....50mph to 180mph runs
daily driver
1,000 RWHP a must
can my current motor do it with the addition of a SC'er, the obvious piston changes would be done. It would also get the FAST 90mm stuff and the new AFR 225 heads and a cam upgrade.
EXPLAIN YOUR CHOICE?
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06-08-2005, 05:22 PM
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you might be able to do it with an F1 if you wanna go supercharger. you WILL need to run race fuel. different heads will be needed or pistons to lower the compression. will also need an aftermarket computer for that much power, such as bs3, dfi, accel, etc..
my choice would be a turbo though since it would prob be easier to reach that power you want due to the amount of loss you would lose from the supercharger's belt drive loss. people make **** loads of power with both setups, but be prepared to spend easily 10-14k on a decent setup that includes fuel, and everything necessary, on top of what other internal mods you need to do to support the motor. you might even need to get it rebalanced and blueprinted. might wanna check with some sponsors.
my choice would be a turbo though since it would prob be easier to reach that power you want due to the amount of loss you would lose from the supercharger's belt drive loss. people make **** loads of power with both setups, but be prepared to spend easily 10-14k on a decent setup that includes fuel, and everything necessary, on top of what other internal mods you need to do to support the motor. you might even need to get it rebalanced and blueprinted. might wanna check with some sponsors.
06-08-2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by narcszm
for 1krwhp you'll need power adder + nitrous. Go with a 4" stroke for a longer-living bottom end. Build a 402 out of an LS2 block - that's your best bet.
06-09-2005, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
yes but all cant be him.im going with a forged 383 thats good for at least 20psi if not more and more than 1k rwhp.go turbo like 2000 Trans Zam said.BTW Mike Norris rocks!!!
06-09-2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
you might be able to do it with an F1 if you wanna go supercharger. you WILL need to run race fuel. different heads will be needed or pistons to lower the compression. will also need an aftermarket computer for that much power, such as bs3, dfi, accel, etc..
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06-09-2005, 01:18 AM
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Go turbo. I don't see an F1 making 1000rwhp but i could be wrong. But say it does, a turbo with the same airflow will make 1100-1200rwhp due to no drivebelt power loss. You could do it with a single turbo. I think the ITS GT80R could obtain your goal.
06-09-2005, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KissMySSo1
Go turbo. I don't see an F1 making 1000rwhp but i could be wrong. But say it does, a turbo with the same airflow will make 1100-1200rwhp due to no drivebelt power loss. You could do it with a single turbo. I think the ITS GT80R could obtain your goal.
06-09-2005, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Quickin
So an F1 + race gas will get me 1,000 RWHP with my 436 engine?????
if it were me, id opt for the turbo, just so many more perks. dont have to worry about belt slippage, dont have to worry about parasitic loss with the belts, simple to adjust boost with the push of a button, dont need to swap pulleys, and turbos i think by far have more overall potential, the main reason why they dont run turbo's in the top fuel cars, too much power to control.
your 436 is an aluminum block? is it resleeved, or how does that work?
as far as going with FI, i would(like i mentioned before) first speak with a sponsor and find out what will need to be done to the motor to prep it for FI. such as diff pistons, CR, cam specs, balanced and blue printed, etc...
id say speak with futral as he's building my 408 stroker with a gt55 turbo, however id prefer you dont until he finishes my car
cant afford him to get any busier
06-09-2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
well bryan wilkonson has a 427(granted its a c5r) with an f1 making over 900 on pump gas on 10:1 CR
if it were me, id opt for the turbo, just so many more perks. dont have to worry about belt slippage, dont have to worry about parasitic loss with the belts, simple to adjust boost with the push of a button, dont need to swap pulleys, and turbos i think by far have more overall potential, the main reason why they dont run turbo's in the top fuel cars, too much power to control.
your 436 is an aluminum block? is it resleeved, or how does that work?
as far as going with FI, i would(like i mentioned before) first speak with a sponsor and find out what will need to be done to the motor to prep it for FI. such as diff pistons, CR, cam specs, balanced and blue printed, etc...
id say speak with futral as he's building my 408 stroker with a gt55 turbo, however id prefer you dont until he finishes my car
cant afford him to get any busier
if it were me, id opt for the turbo, just so many more perks. dont have to worry about belt slippage, dont have to worry about parasitic loss with the belts, simple to adjust boost with the push of a button, dont need to swap pulleys, and turbos i think by far have more overall potential, the main reason why they dont run turbo's in the top fuel cars, too much power to control.
your 436 is an aluminum block? is it resleeved, or how does that work?
as far as going with FI, i would(like i mentioned before) first speak with a sponsor and find out what will need to be done to the motor to prep it for FI. such as diff pistons, CR, cam specs, balanced and blue printed, etc...
id say speak with futral as he's building my 408 stroker with a gt55 turbo, however id prefer you dont until he finishes my car
cant afford him to get any busier
Mine is bored and stroked.Maybe just buy this and call it a day: It fits into an F-Body and the entire project from them is $50,000. Includes a built 9" Ford rear-end, TH-400 w/gearvendors over drive and some suspension mods.
They have a streetable 1,600 hp version too.
http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm
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06-09-2005, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
i must say you have entirely too much money to play with.care to make a donation with some of that extra cash?
06-09-2005, 02:53 PM
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The simplest route would be 408 and Y2K-88. Spool quick, 1000rwhp, and not to terribly exotic. The focus of your cash should go to the heads. When trying to achieve big numbers on pump gas, the bigger the heads the better.
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06-09-2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
The simplest route would be 408 and Y2K-88. Spool quick, 1000rwhp, and not to terribly exotic. The focus of your cash should go to the heads. When trying to achieve big numbers on pump gas, the bigger the heads the better.
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06-09-2005, 05:12 PM
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how does that turbo compare in performance to the gt55 i am having installed on my 408?
and im assuming you need a piggyback computer of some sort(bs3, etc.) to be able to get that kind of power on pump gas?
and im assuming you need a piggyback computer of some sort(bs3, etc.) to be able to get that kind of power on pump gas?
06-09-2005, 05:26 PM
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Yes a PB system will be needed. As for the Y2K, it is a tad smaller then the GT55. The Y2K though is a BB unit.
Here are the precise measurements of the unit. We are in the middle of getting some custom Y2K's built and I will have further detail for the public later.
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Here are the precise measurements of the unit. We are in the middle of getting some custom Y2K's built and I will have further detail for the public later.
Jose
