***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) *****
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by Z00:
<strong>Hey Rob, do you have any new numbers from the 409 yet?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not yet. We've developed an additional problem....we keep blowing the SLP MAF apart. When Ed Wright tuned the car, it was tuned for the 85mm MAF, and it seems to be the only MAF the computer will respond to now. This MAF is actually two pieces, glued together, unlike the stock and Granatelli's which are screwed together with an o-ring seal.
At 15lbs with the MAF cracked AFTER the meter, loosing boost and running at an A/F of 9:1-10.5:1, it dynoed 660rwhp and the tq was off the graph (over 750rwtq). I only took the engine to 5400 rpms. Judging by by the previous dyno figures, it should have pulled over 700rwhp had I took it up to 6200rpms.
When I let off, it blew the meter completely apart. We are modifying the MAF now, as well as installing a blow-off valve. But it'll be another week before we can get a dyno day scheduled.
We'll keep you posted.
Rob Raymer
LS1 Motorsports
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9.94 @ 136.37 - '98 Z28 Single Turbo
<strong>Hey Rob, do you have any new numbers from the 409 yet?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not yet. We've developed an additional problem....we keep blowing the SLP MAF apart. When Ed Wright tuned the car, it was tuned for the 85mm MAF, and it seems to be the only MAF the computer will respond to now. This MAF is actually two pieces, glued together, unlike the stock and Granatelli's which are screwed together with an o-ring seal.
At 15lbs with the MAF cracked AFTER the meter, loosing boost and running at an A/F of 9:1-10.5:1, it dynoed 660rwhp and the tq was off the graph (over 750rwtq). I only took the engine to 5400 rpms. Judging by by the previous dyno figures, it should have pulled over 700rwhp had I took it up to 6200rpms.
When I let off, it blew the meter completely apart. We are modifying the MAF now, as well as installing a blow-off valve. But it'll be another week before we can get a dyno day scheduled.
We'll keep you posted.
Rob Raymer
LS1 Motorsports
www.LS1Motorsports.com
"World's Fastest Forced Induction LS1"
9.94 @ 136.37 - '98 Z28 Single Turbo
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by Rob Raymer:
<strong>
Sorry, we're running 15lbs for now.
Rob Raymer
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9.94 @ 136.37 - '98 Z28 Single Turbo</strong><hr></blockquote>
Dey-em! I wish I could do that!!! <img src="graemlins/gr_images/icons/mad.gif" border="0" alt="[very mad]" />
Good work keeping that stuff together!
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Sorry, we're running 15lbs for now.
Rob Raymer
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"World's Fastest Forced Induction LS1"
9.94 @ 136.37 - '98 Z28 Single Turbo</strong><hr></blockquote>
Dey-em! I wish I could do that!!! <img src="graemlins/gr_images/icons/mad.gif" border="0" alt="[very mad]" />
Good work keeping that stuff together!
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by 98 Gold Formula:
<strong>Sorry Stock trans A4 with a 4100 yank</strong><hr></blockquote>
Which Yank Converter is the 4100?
<strong>Sorry Stock trans A4 with a 4100 yank</strong><hr></blockquote>
Which Yank Converter is the 4100?
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by Rob Raymer:
<strong>I hope I cover everything:
'98 Z28
9.94 @ 136.37
1.51 60ft
Custom Single T-74 Turbo
H,C,B(375ci),LC(9:1)
400 turbo trans
3.50 gears Moser 9"
TS (ET Drags)
3840lbs w/driver
707rwhp/730rwtq SAE (dynoed at Ed Wright's)
Pro Yank 3500</strong><hr></blockquote>
So... how's it feel to be at the top of the food chain? <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
How much PSI boost are you runnin'?
Thanks!
<strong>I hope I cover everything:
'98 Z28
9.94 @ 136.37
1.51 60ft
Custom Single T-74 Turbo
H,C,B(375ci),LC(9:1)
400 turbo trans
3.50 gears Moser 9"
TS (ET Drags)
3840lbs w/driver
707rwhp/730rwtq SAE (dynoed at Ed Wright's)
Pro Yank 3500</strong><hr></blockquote>
So... how's it feel to be at the top of the food chain? <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
How much PSI boost are you runnin'?
Thanks!
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by Black LS1 T/A:
<strong>
So... how's it feel to be at the top of the food chain? <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
How much PSI boost are you runnin'?
Thanks!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry, we're running 15lbs for now.
Rob Raymer
LS1 Motorsports
www.LS1Motorsports.com
"World's Fastest Forced Induction LS1"
9.94 @ 136.37 - '98 Z28 Single Turbo
<strong>
So... how's it feel to be at the top of the food chain? <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
How much PSI boost are you runnin'?
Thanks!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry, we're running 15lbs for now.
Rob Raymer
LS1 Motorsports
www.LS1Motorsports.com
"World's Fastest Forced Induction LS1"
9.94 @ 136.37 - '98 Z28 Single Turbo
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** well it's an extremely traction limited run and was made with 1 cracked piston but it's all I have right now.
vortech 9psi
2.73 gears
a4, 2800PI
BFG Dragradials
hotcam
self ported heads
3650lbs
1.97 60ft <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
100.27 1/8th mph
11.47&123.22 1/4et & mph
The motor is going back together with ts1 gapless rings,stock cam and a better flowing intake port.
The idea is to bring down the rpms and make it more streetable while being as fast or faster than it was with the same 2.73/2800PI combo.
Steve
vortech 9psi
2.73 gears
a4, 2800PI
BFG Dragradials
hotcam
self ported heads
3650lbs
1.97 60ft <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
100.27 1/8th mph
11.47&123.22 1/4et & mph
The motor is going back together with ts1 gapless rings,stock cam and a better flowing intake port.
The idea is to bring down the rpms and make it more streetable while being as fast or faster than it was with the same 2.73/2800PI combo.
Steve
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** Those are GREAT numbers! <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
It's been a general understanding in such lists that the car is capable of still running similar times as what is posted in the list.
I can see both sides. What you DID in the past is informative, but does it qualify as a currently boosted car?
You guys tell me what you think... do we include in the list times on vehicles that are no longer running? I'm open to arguments (polite ones, that is <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> ).
This is not a slam on anyone who would LIKE to be on the list... but I think you maintain a ranking based on current ability. That's my vote. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
It's been a general understanding in such lists that the car is capable of still running similar times as what is posted in the list.
I can see both sides. What you DID in the past is informative, but does it qualify as a currently boosted car?
You guys tell me what you think... do we include in the list times on vehicles that are no longer running? I'm open to arguments (polite ones, that is <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> ).
This is not a slam on anyone who would LIKE to be on the list... but I think you maintain a ranking based on current ability. That's my vote. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** 1.97 60ft
100.27 1/8th mph
11.47&123.22 1/4et & mph
hmmm...
When I ran 10.98 @ 125.83 MPH in the qtr, my 8th mile was 7.07 @ 99.5 MPH and I had a 1.63 60'
What do you attribute the fast trap speed in the 8th, and slow time in the qtr. Did you start losing power at the end? Without the cracked piston, that thing must be a monster!
100.27 1/8th mph
11.47&123.22 1/4et & mph
hmmm...
When I ran 10.98 @ 125.83 MPH in the qtr, my 8th mile was 7.07 @ 99.5 MPH and I had a 1.63 60'
What do you attribute the fast trap speed in the 8th, and slow time in the qtr. Did you start losing power at the end? Without the cracked piston, that thing must be a monster!
Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** I say keep them on the list if they are planning to go back to FI with their upgrades or at least denote that their setup is no longer active.
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by Z00:
<strong>I like leaving it on there even if they are not active because it gives you an idea of what you can do with a similar setup.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree. It IS informative, and acknowledges what they've accomplished. I'll put up a "Benched" list for our inactive FI buds. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
<strong>I like leaving it on there even if they are not active because it gives you an idea of what you can do with a similar setup.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree. It IS informative, and acknowledges what they've accomplished. I'll put up a "Benched" list for our inactive FI buds. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** My car is still staying supercharged, it's just down right now for a piston R&R.
The only big change will be going from the hotcam back to the stocker.
I want instant low end reponse back to better pull the 2.73/2800 stall as the car is going to be more street than strip from now on.
To somewhat make up for that loss in camming, I am going to increase the intake port flow and with a fresh set of ts1 gapless rings and 8 strong cylinders instead of 7.5, the motor should be making close to the same topend with more midrange and lowend.
You can bet the car will still run those numbers and probably better.
As for the good 1/8th and somewhat slow 1/4..
well the slow 1/4et is strictly from lack of traction.
You can subtract at least 5 tenths in the 1/4 had the car hooked up well to a low 1.60 high 1.50 60ft like I should.
The 1/4 trap mph with 2.73 suffers quite a bit.
I have run 11.22 at only 114mph before the supercharger on the bottle with 2.73.
The rate of accleration once you hit 3rd gear (2.73 final drive) is very flat.But it pulls very strong through the 1/8th.
I used to run 3.73 and on the bottle it was just as fast through the 1/8th with 2.73.
I use 2.73 now as they are very strong,quiet and as you can see still pretty fast.
A set of 3.73 would add at least 3-4mph to the trap speeds I run by keeping the motor under full boost the entire 1/4 but this motor would snap them in no time(stock 10 bolt).
Steve
The only big change will be going from the hotcam back to the stocker.
I want instant low end reponse back to better pull the 2.73/2800 stall as the car is going to be more street than strip from now on.
To somewhat make up for that loss in camming, I am going to increase the intake port flow and with a fresh set of ts1 gapless rings and 8 strong cylinders instead of 7.5, the motor should be making close to the same topend with more midrange and lowend.
You can bet the car will still run those numbers and probably better.
As for the good 1/8th and somewhat slow 1/4..
well the slow 1/4et is strictly from lack of traction.
You can subtract at least 5 tenths in the 1/4 had the car hooked up well to a low 1.60 high 1.50 60ft like I should.
The 1/4 trap mph with 2.73 suffers quite a bit.
I have run 11.22 at only 114mph before the supercharger on the bottle with 2.73.
The rate of accleration once you hit 3rd gear (2.73 final drive) is very flat.But it pulls very strong through the 1/8th.
I used to run 3.73 and on the bottle it was just as fast through the 1/8th with 2.73.
I use 2.73 now as they are very strong,quiet and as you can see still pretty fast.
A set of 3.73 would add at least 3-4mph to the trap speeds I run by keeping the motor under full boost the entire 1/4 but this motor would snap them in no time(stock 10 bolt).
Steve
Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** well its no longer active (cablebandit') but it ran the time in the sig.
6-speed, low compression, cam, nittos, single turbo 7.5 psi, 3.73 gear, 3650#
dyno in sig(lower boost) approx 450 horse/475 tq at 7.5 psi.
i do plan to supercharge if that makes a difference
dang i forgot.. 1.99 60'
[ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: MIGHTYMOUSE ]
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6-speed, low compression, cam, nittos, single turbo 7.5 psi, 3.73 gear, 3650#
dyno in sig(lower boost) approx 450 horse/475 tq at 7.5 psi.
i do plan to supercharge if that makes a difference
dang i forgot.. 1.99 60'
[ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: MIGHTYMOUSE ]
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** 11.87@118 [1.77] vtc9 si m6 rr3:73 te wt? 485x456@sae Tulsa. Actually my torque is uncorrected my corrected number is still at my friends dyno safely kept on his hard drive. I will try to get you a corrected torque # in a day or so. Thanks Jason or 474x452 @ 660' barometer was at 29.32.
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[ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: SC 98 Mecham ]</p>
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Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** [quote]Originally posted by just me:
<strong>My car is still staying supercharged, it's just down right now for a piston R&R.
The only big change will be going from the hotcam back to the stocker.
I want instant low end reponse back to better pull the 2.73/2800 stall as the car is going to be more street than strip from now on.
To somewhat make up for that loss in camming, I am going to increase the intake port flow and with a fresh set of ts1 gapless rings and 8 strong cylinders instead of 7.5, the motor should be making close to the same topend with more midrange and lowend.
You can bet the car will still run those numbers and probably better.
As for the good 1/8th and somewhat slow 1/4..
well the slow 1/4et is strictly from lack of traction.
You can subtract at least 5 tenths in the 1/4 had the car hooked up well to a low 1.60 high 1.50 60ft like I should.
The 1/4 trap mph with 2.73 suffers quite a bit.
I have run 11.22 at only 114mph before the supercharger on the bottle with 2.73.
The rate of accleration once you hit 3rd gear (2.73 final drive) is very flat.But it pulls very strong through the 1/8th.
I used to run 3.73 and on the bottle it was just as fast through the 1/8th with 2.73.
I use 2.73 now as they are very strong,quiet and as you can see still pretty fast.
A set of 3.73 would add at least 3-4mph to the trap speeds I run by keeping the motor under full boost the entire 1/4 but this motor would snap them in no time(stock 10 bolt).
Steve</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's interesting to see the difference other gear ratios make.
<strong>My car is still staying supercharged, it's just down right now for a piston R&R.
The only big change will be going from the hotcam back to the stocker.
I want instant low end reponse back to better pull the 2.73/2800 stall as the car is going to be more street than strip from now on.
To somewhat make up for that loss in camming, I am going to increase the intake port flow and with a fresh set of ts1 gapless rings and 8 strong cylinders instead of 7.5, the motor should be making close to the same topend with more midrange and lowend.
You can bet the car will still run those numbers and probably better.
As for the good 1/8th and somewhat slow 1/4..
well the slow 1/4et is strictly from lack of traction.
You can subtract at least 5 tenths in the 1/4 had the car hooked up well to a low 1.60 high 1.50 60ft like I should.
The 1/4 trap mph with 2.73 suffers quite a bit.
I have run 11.22 at only 114mph before the supercharger on the bottle with 2.73.
The rate of accleration once you hit 3rd gear (2.73 final drive) is very flat.But it pulls very strong through the 1/8th.
I used to run 3.73 and on the bottle it was just as fast through the 1/8th with 2.73.
I use 2.73 now as they are very strong,quiet and as you can see still pretty fast.
A set of 3.73 would add at least 3-4mph to the trap speeds I run by keeping the motor under full boost the entire 1/4 but this motor would snap them in no time(stock 10 bolt).
Steve</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's interesting to see the difference other gear ratios make.
Re: ***** The Boosted List (Supercharged / Turbo'd) ***** LT1 sorry, 1996 Impala SS
9.5:1 trw piston motor, stock cam
stock 3.08 rear axle
stockish torque converter (Yank me, please....)
Suck-thru MAF for now.... (just say no....)
MAFT, Scanmaster and all those other toys
36 lb injectors and Walbro 340M
TransGo shift kit
Upholstery by La-Z-Boy..........
Room for lots of kids and groceries.
No times / dyno yet.
"The fastest living room in the county"
TurboBob
(battling apparent piston slap...)
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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9.5:1 trw piston motor, stock cam
stock 3.08 rear axle
stockish torque converter (Yank me, please....)
Suck-thru MAF for now.... (just say no....)
MAFT, Scanmaster and all those other toys
36 lb injectors and Walbro 340M
TransGo shift kit
Upholstery by La-Z-Boy..........
Room for lots of kids and groceries.
No times / dyno yet.
"The fastest living room in the county"
TurboBob
(battling apparent piston slap...)
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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