Final Pump gas numbers from FMS
Final Pump gas numbers from FMS Ok.
Heres the final numbers on pump gas of my setup.
Once again to reiterate:
GT55 turbo
408 Stroker
12 bolt 3 42 gears
Lets just say I almost **** myself when I saw the final results:
this is on 12.5 lbs of boost, 16 deg's of timing and 12.6 a/f ratio.
Heres the final numbers on pump gas of my setup.
Once again to reiterate:
GT55 turbo
408 Stroker
12 bolt 3 42 gears
Lets just say I almost **** myself when I saw the final results:
this is on 12.5 lbs of boost, 16 deg's of timing and 12.6 a/f ratio.
I sure hope they go back and retune the fuel to something more like 11.0-11.2:1, otherwise it will be a very short lived motor.
Tuned for 11.0:1 on a dyno jet = 11.5 on the road.
Tuned for 11.0:1 on a dyno jet = 11.5 on the road.
Originally Posted by Zombie
I sure hope they go back and retune the fuel to something more like 11.0-11.2:1, otherwise it will be a very short lived motor.
Tuned for 11.0:1 on a dyno jet = 11.5 on the road.
Tuned for 11.0:1 on a dyno jet = 11.5 on the road.
He told me I can run it on the street here without any problem, so I trust his judgement.
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man those are great numbers, and the only thing I dont like about the kit is that everything is below the K member, my car is too low for that to work
great great numbes, I hope I can get close to that.
great great numbes, I hope I can get close to that.
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If you don't mind sharing, I'd like to know some of the specs on your setup. GT55=88mm turbo? Injector size? Compression ratio on motor? Intercooler core thickness? Cam=FM7? Heads? Thank and congrats on the outcome of your new setup! I'm hoping for similar #s when I get mine back in a few weeks.
Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
If you don't mind sharing, I'd like to know some of the specs on your setup. GT55=88mm turbo? Injector size? Compression ratio on motor? Intercooler core thickness? Cam=FM7? Heads? Thank and congrats on the outcome of your new setup! I'm hoping for similar #s when I get mine back in a few weeks.
The GT55 is a 91.5mm turbo.....
Only Pump gas???? Why no C16 pulls???? Thats awsome HP though for Pump gas and really low boost..... awsome....
Stock PCM also correct??
Kyle
Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
Ya, I thought it was the A/F ratio that you would normally run on an N/A motor, but hes the master, so Ill leave it at that.
He told me I can run it on the street here without any problem, so I trust his judgement.
He told me I can run it on the street here without any problem, so I trust his judgement.
You can't run that lean on an FI motor on pump gas and be safe. Something bad will happen (detonation). Have him richen it up a lot, shoot for 11.0:1 on a dynojet. If he thinks that a 12.5:1 a/f is safe on pump gas you need a new tuner. I'm hoping there is more to the story like the wideband reading was off or something.
That 12.5:1 a/f will go to 13.0:1 a/f on the street i real world conditions. 12.5:1 is even pushing the limits when running c16. You have a lot of money invested in a bad *** setup, don't lose it all to a bad tune, i've seen it happen too many times on here and in person.
GEEZ..Before everybody makes an"asumption" on things before they know all the facts.
MY dyno reads .7-.8 lean so the 12.6 A\F is actually 11.8-11.9 A\F. I can run this kind of A\F due to the combustion chamber design,cam design and the big *** intercoller up front along with the efficient turbo. The intake air temp is located in front of the T\B and in these dyno test only gets 5-10 deg over oustside temp. If I was to dyno at 11.0-11.2 I would be blowing out black smoke like a diesel. This motor was built as a pump gas setup from the beginning. My N\A motors make the best power at 13.8-14.0 on my A\F display.
Now this is JUST a dyno test for now and IS NOT the final tune for the customer! Final street tuning is next.
Do any of you that preach 11.0-11.2 actually READ the spark plugs to see what is going on in the motor?
MY dyno reads .7-.8 lean so the 12.6 A\F is actually 11.8-11.9 A\F. I can run this kind of A\F due to the combustion chamber design,cam design and the big *** intercoller up front along with the efficient turbo. The intake air temp is located in front of the T\B and in these dyno test only gets 5-10 deg over oustside temp. If I was to dyno at 11.0-11.2 I would be blowing out black smoke like a diesel. This motor was built as a pump gas setup from the beginning. My N\A motors make the best power at 13.8-14.0 on my A\F display.
Now this is JUST a dyno test for now and IS NOT the final tune for the customer! Final street tuning is next.
Do any of you that preach 11.0-11.2 actually READ the spark plugs to see what is going on in the motor?
Last edited by Futral Motorsports; Nov 17, 2005 at 05:32 PM.
Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
If you don't mind sharing, I'd like to know some of the specs on your setup. GT55=88mm turbo? Injector size? Compression ratio on motor? Intercooler core thickness? Cam=FM7? Heads? Thank and congrats on the outcome of your new setup! I'm hoping for similar #s when I get mine back in a few weeks.
No pulls on c16 yet because hes been working his *** off with not only my setup, but a bunch of others as well.
I wonder if in the email he sent me it was a type, maybe he meant 11.6?
I dunno, maybe he can come in here and give us more info on it.
Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
ya, its a 91 mm turbo, rc engineering 75# inj's, 8.5 : 1 CR i think its 4 inch core on the intercooler, not sure though, cam is custom cam, i think around 232/232 not sure yet though, afr stage 3 hand ported meaux heads.
No pulls on c16 yet because hes been working his *** off with not only my setup, but a bunch of others as well.
I wonder if in the email he sent me it was a type, maybe he meant 11.6?
I dunno, maybe he can come in here and give us more info on it.
No pulls on c16 yet because hes been working his *** off with not only my setup, but a bunch of others as well.
I wonder if in the email he sent me it was a type, maybe he meant 11.6?
I dunno, maybe he can come in here and give us more info on it.