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forged internals Im looking into forging my internals and I know i need the pistons and rod bolts, but i looked on speed inc. ,and im totally lost when it comes to this can someone help me out. My plan is going to consist of forged internals, built drivetrain,6.0 head swap from mti heads, and a procharger or turbo kit. And another thing does anyone have any experience with speed inc???
Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Im looking into forging my internals and I know i need the pistons and rod bolts, but i looked on speed inc. ,and im totally lost when it comes to this can someone help me out. My plan is going to consist of forged internals, built drivetrain,6.0 head swap from mti heads, and a procharger or turbo kit. And another thing does anyone have any experience with speed inc???
how much power you want?
what im doing instead of new heads to lower the CR im just using pistons in my motor...
dished pistons- 500$
heads-1200+$
rods- 500-800
drivetrain- rear- 2300
DS-300
tranny build... depends on stick or A4 or A3... probably 1000+$
but ofcourse this depends on how much power you want and what your doing with it.. wether it be track days every weekend or just a cruiser
if its just a cruiser grab a set of pistons and get the CR down and dont worry about the drive train... as long as you have street (non drag radials) on it wont bother it too much
or while you have the motor pulled use these
DP11503 Flat top/3.905 bore/3.622 stroke/6.125 rod/1.314 comp. height/.927x2.500 wrist pin/-8.6cc valve relief (Boost/up to 20psi) $585.99 buy
LUN-LAE1 Lunati Pro-Mod Connecting Rods, 6.125" ROD LENGTH, .927 WRIST PIN, 2.100 CRANK PIN, .940 JRNL WIDTH (Includes ARP Connecting Rod Bolts) $699.99
and pretty much have a motor that would handle 800rwhp
DP11503 Flat top/3.905 bore/3.622 stroke/6.125 rod/1.314 comp. height/.927x2.500 wrist pin/-8.6cc valve relief (Boost/up to 20psi) $585.99 buy
LUN-LAE1 Lunati Pro-Mod Connecting Rods, 6.125" ROD LENGTH, .927 WRIST PIN, 2.100 CRANK PIN, .940 JRNL WIDTH (Includes ARP Connecting Rod Bolts) $699.99
and pretty much have a motor that would handle 800rwhp
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
or while you have the motor pulled use these
DP11503 Flat top/3.905 bore/3.622 stroke/6.125 rod/1.314 comp. height/.927x2.500 wrist pin/-8.6cc valve relief (Boost/up to 20psi) $585.99 buy
LUN-LAE1 Lunati Pro-Mod Connecting Rods, 6.125" ROD LENGTH, .927 WRIST PIN, 2.100 CRANK PIN, .940 JRNL WIDTH (Includes ARP Connecting Rod Bolts) $699.99
and pretty much have a motor that would handle 800rwhp
DP11503 Flat top/3.905 bore/3.622 stroke/6.125 rod/1.314 comp. height/.927x2.500 wrist pin/-8.6cc valve relief (Boost/up to 20psi) $585.99 buy
LUN-LAE1 Lunati Pro-Mod Connecting Rods, 6.125" ROD LENGTH, .927 WRIST PIN, 2.100 CRANK PIN, .940 JRNL WIDTH (Includes ARP Connecting Rod Bolts) $699.99
and pretty much have a motor that would handle 800rwhp
Thanks man you have been a great help and i love this section of the forum the FI guys are very knowledgablem and cool as ****. Yah this project is going to be expensive but hopefully it will be worth it. So as far as my tranny can i just replace the parts in my stock tranny to handle this power??? If so what do I need to do?
Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Thanks man you have been a great help and i love this section of the forum the FI guys are very knowledgablem and cool as ****. Yah this project is going to be expensive but hopefully it will be worth it. So as far as my tranny can i just replace the parts in my stock tranny to handle this power??? If so what do I need to do?
do you have a A4 or M6?
on the itmes i suggested make sure and shop around... you can find good deals... also look in the 4sale section... i know there are 2 sets of 3.905 pistons in there right now and 1 set of rods...
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Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Yeah i was just thinking about that.. lol so what needs to be done then is the question??
oh sorry i took for granted you knew that..
yeah you'll need to have the block taken out stripped down, line honed, cleaned, put back together with new parts and balanced.
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Man im 18 here do y'all think all of this work with the forged internals, and FI will be worth all this money in the end I mean this car is a ******* money pit but i just cant get enough 
lol. My goal is 600hp thats about it ,but I want it to where if I want to go more its possible.
lol. My goal is 600hp thats about it ,but I want it to where if I want to go more its possible.
Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Man im 18 here do y'all think all of this work with the forged internals, and FI will be worth all this money in the end I mean this car is a ******* money pit but i just cant get enough lol. My goal is 600hp thats about it ,but I want it to where if I want to go more its possible.
lol. My goal is 600hp thats about it ,but I want it to where if I want to go more its possible.if all you want is 600 hp get heads and cam for your car and then stick a 150 shot of nitrous on it...
hell im 19 and i have a good job but it all goes to my car....
i'll finish my race cars then i'll get a house and get married...
if you marry young without any toys you wont get any after marriage until later...
so ill bring mine into marriage
Why not just buy a full forged short block from one of the sponsors? If I remeber correctly TSP or one of the other sponsors have forged 346 short blocks for around $2700. You could buy that, which would be full assembled and balance, and then sell of your stock short block for $1000 or so. it would be cheaper in the long run IMO.
be prepared to dump several 1000$ in your car if you want to go FI...
i've got over 17k in it after the price tag and its still in pieces in the garage floor.... but it will be done this summer
408 9:1 CR
single plane gmpp
D1-sc with FMIC
stock heads
220/224 cam
th350 9'' ATI converter
6pnt chrome molly cage
all BMR Chassis stuff
12 bolt moser with 4.10s (soon to be swapped to 3.42)
i should be sporting about 700rwhp
i'm looking for atleast 6.50 8th
right now I've gotta get some shocks to hook it
its a disease and i cant get rid of it..
i've got over 17k in it after the price tag and its still in pieces in the garage floor.... but it will be done this summer
408 9:1 CR
single plane gmpp
D1-sc with FMIC
stock heads
220/224 cam
th350 9'' ATI converter
6pnt chrome molly cage
all BMR Chassis stuff
12 bolt moser with 4.10s (soon to be swapped to 3.42)
i should be sporting about 700rwhp
i'm looking for atleast 6.50 8th
right now I've gotta get some shocks to hook it
its a disease and i cant get rid of it..
Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
Well i dont want to do the nitrous bit lol and thanks for the opinons about the forged block. That sounds like a badass plan Will my heads bolt right up to it as well?
Will my heads bolt right up to it as well?yeah... with FI you can use stock heads and still get pretty good results...
i'm going to use my stock 241 heads with the 921 spring kit and just hand port the exhaust side a bit to help it get of some more air.
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
be prepared to dump several 1000$ in your car if you want to go FI...
i've got over 17k in it after the price tag and its still in pieces in the garage floor.... but it will be done this summer
408 9:1 CR
single plane gmpp
D1-sc with FMIC
stock heads
220/224 cam
th350 9'' ATI converter
6pnt chrome molly cage
all BMR Chassis stuff
12 bolt moser with 4.10s (soon to be swapped to 3.42)
i should be sporting about 700rwhp
i'm looking for atleast 6.50 8th
right now I've gotta get some shocks to hook it
its a disease and i cant get rid of it..
i've got over 17k in it after the price tag and its still in pieces in the garage floor.... but it will be done this summer
408 9:1 CR
single plane gmpp
D1-sc with FMIC
stock heads
220/224 cam
th350 9'' ATI converter
6pnt chrome molly cage
all BMR Chassis stuff
12 bolt moser with 4.10s (soon to be swapped to 3.42)
i should be sporting about 700rwhp
i'm looking for atleast 6.50 8th
right now I've gotta get some shocks to hook it
its a disease and i cant get rid of it..
HOLY **** LOL!! It is a disease bro...
but i love it. Whats the cheapest way to go lol even though there is no cheap in FI ill buy the pistons and rods, and the FI kit and other little things but all my stuff came out to be about 11k Thread Starter
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whoa whoa whoa now lol ill tell you what all I have done to my SS. I have full bolt ons, and H/C and stall(3200) now im ready for more so yeah im pretty green into the ls1 but just want it to be done right in the end
Originally Posted by blue2002ss06
HOLY **** LOL!! It is a disease bro... but i love it. Whats the cheapest way to go lol even though there is no cheap in FI ill buy the pistons and rods, and the FI kit and other little things but all my stuff came out to be about 11k
but i love it. Whats the cheapest way to go lol even though there is no cheap in FI ill buy the pistons and rods, and the FI kit and other little things but all my stuff came out to be about 11ki would do what KP did with his TA.
stock block
new pistons
new rods
dual intake pumps -8 line to the rails stock line back
d1 kit with front mount inter cooler
2001 z06 cam and new springs
headers
and thats got you a pretty fast (not quick until you start on the chassis and supension) hot rod