F Body intercooled twin turbo system - preliminary pricing $5495 inc free delvery
07-12-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by calongo_SS
Has there been many street miles logged in the test car Peter?
Originally Posted by calongo_SS
I like the way the PCV system has been changed and there should be no problem with crankcase pressure. I am however concerned with oil getting into the intake without any type of catch can. I personally will put my own catch can I already have between the valve cover and one way valve. I can see oil being sucked into air entry ducts from the other two hose though. Maybe some kind of oil separators can be placed in those lines?
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07-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002 Trans Am
You need to take off the coil packs and spark plug wires in order to remove the stock manifold. They didn't cover removing stock manifolds in the instructions and that is probably why it was left out
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07-12-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brains
Don't fret guys, a lot of the details will become pretty obvious as you install. Many of the "trim here, modify this" stuff is simply for clearance. You'll see what needs to be done and how much once you have the components in hand
Originally Posted by Brains
There's a couple things that will be slightly different as well, like trimming the bumper cover for Formulas and Camaros. Again, it should be pretty obvious why and where to trim
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07-12-2007, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fil131
That brings up another question that I have had but forgot to ask,
What can we expect to be different in the 02 Camaro on this install?
What can we expect to be different in the 02 Camaro on this install?
Just take your time and ask other guys or myself if you run into a problem or an issue your not sure about. 
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07-12-2007, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fil131
I also wanted clarification on step 173.
The 2 vacuum hoses attached to each the LHBOV and the RHBOV and then attached to the T-Piece, does the third side hose go to the empty fitting on the steel T-Piece pictured in step 143?
The 2 vacuum hoses attached to each the LHBOV and the RHBOV and then attached to the T-Piece, does the third side hose go to the empty fitting on the steel T-Piece pictured in step 143?
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07-12-2007, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brains
Every part that's different than a Trans Am 
(which is next to nothing).
Bumper cover is ever so slightly different in the area needed to be trimmed, and the fog lights can be left alone. Everything else should remain the same looking at the incredibly detailed install photos
(which is next to nothing).Bumper cover is ever so slightly different in the area needed to be trimmed, and the fog lights can be left alone. Everything else should remain the same looking at the incredibly detailed install photos
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07-12-2007, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002 Trans Am
Those C5 Vette guys better get crankin on the power #s. I was actually concerned about the turbos reading all the low power #s out of the C5 kits, but it seems there are a few GTO guys making big time power with the same turbos.
The C5 twin turbo system will quickly generate 800-850 rwhp with the right basic engine combination, fuel octane and tuning.
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07-12-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
I'd install the largest cats possible if I had to run cats, metal matrix of 150-200 CPI density would be ideal.
Peter
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where can i get these and can i just pay you alittle more and you get them for us guys that want them.
07-12-2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
LS2 > LS1
LS2 engines love boost.
LS2 engines love boost.
Peter
PS- How's the twin turbo GTO performing, you like?
07-12-2007, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugger Z
Whew! That was a heck of a read. But I am looking forward to putting all this on. I was already thinking of what I could start ahead of time to make this install go faster..... Ha ha.
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07-12-2007, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002 Trans Am
The LS1 Vette guys are struggling to put down 600 where the GTO guys are popping up with 700+
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07-12-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sixspeed02TA
Peter,
I looked up the cam specs for the LPE Cam:
207/220 571/.578 w 1.7 rocker 118.5 CL
So this is the cam you recommend to compliment your twin setup? Just wondering if this was the same cam you planned to put in your forged 346 buildup later this year?
I looked up the cam specs for the LPE Cam:
207/220 571/.578 w 1.7 rocker 118.5 CL
So this is the cam you recommend to compliment your twin setup? Just wondering if this was the same cam you planned to put in your forged 346 buildup later this year?
Originally Posted by Sixspeed02TA
I was just looking for something with a little more "personality"; I know choppy cams aren't ideal for turbo applications, but that looks pretty lethargic.
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07-12-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Loboost
I have this cam with a 1st Gen APS TT in my GTO it is very stealthy and as you say has no personality but I am making over 600ftlbs at 3100rpm and 770ftlbs buy 5000rpm on a stock bottom end LS2 with 317 heads through stock mufflers with 3 inch tubing from the downpipes to muffs. Heres a link to the dyno.http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...17001953bc.htm I am sure you can find a cam with more personality but the GT2-3 works very well.
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I'll take Real Performance every time!
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07-12-2007, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KWIKKAR
Well let us know what you end up doing with your motor. I'm thinking of going with AFR heads now instead of ported 6.0L heads. 
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07-12-2007, 07:23 PM
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Excellent looking kit and very detailed instructions.
If you guys had advertised this 2 weeks sooner I may not have already blown the money on a prochager, which I still haven't installed yet.
The minute I found out about it, I was like.....dammit! And the kicker was, that I was actually in Austrailia when I sent the money out for the charger......Doh!
Good Luck to all those waiting and I'll ook forward to seeing some awesome results.
If you guys had advertised this 2 weeks sooner I may not have already blown the money on a prochager, which I still haven't installed yet.
The minute I found out about it, I was like.....dammit! And the kicker was, that I was actually in Austrailia when I sent the money out for the charger......Doh!
Good Luck to all those waiting and I'll ook forward to seeing some awesome results.
07-12-2007, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
I think you will see some 800+ rwhp APS twin turbo C5's in the near future...............I know that the guys at Cartek are building an APS twin turbo forged 346 twin turbo car at the moment.............there's no subsitute for pratical engine building and tuning experience.
Peter
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Whenever I get your kit, they'll be the guys tuning me
07-13-2007, 01:24 AM
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I went with a lingenfelter gt7 but after reading its very close to factory z06 cam not sure year of z06. Its got more ls1 than the gt3. The gt3 think was originally their turbo cam and think also good for supercharger but think the gt7 has taken place of gt3 for turbo applications. So Peter you might want to run gt7 like me. As for heads I was just going to run some patriot performance 72cc to bring down compression and they are cheap talking stage 3 with big valves as did plan on 408 or 427 down the road a bit. 225 AFR think are also more for 408 up type of thing and 205 AFR more for 346 and up to 400 or so.
But really think almost any cam within reason will work with the turbos and seems there are lots of ideas as to what works best with splits, reverse splits and various lsas being run. I could likely keep my current cam 221/221/558/558/ 114LSA old mti b1 cam as think it would likely do ok. But in my old age think want a cam with basically no lope in my twin turbo car. Rumpity cams are more at home with NA builds and supers for some reason. I want my turbo car to be pretty mellow until I unleash the dogs of hell. Turbo cars are great in this regard. Usually super driveable and then wild crazy power when they spool up. I have ridden in a 5psi sts lately in ls1 and one in an lt1 and both times at only 5psi it was still a rush. I am sure twins at 5 or 7 psi on bone stock engine will still also be a rush. I am also used to plus 500 hp in my 97 talon.
Well its good to see things progressing and getting close to delivery dates hopefully.
Excitement is building for sure.
But really think almost any cam within reason will work with the turbos and seems there are lots of ideas as to what works best with splits, reverse splits and various lsas being run. I could likely keep my current cam 221/221/558/558/ 114LSA old mti b1 cam as think it would likely do ok. But in my old age think want a cam with basically no lope in my twin turbo car. Rumpity cams are more at home with NA builds and supers for some reason. I want my turbo car to be pretty mellow until I unleash the dogs of hell. Turbo cars are great in this regard. Usually super driveable and then wild crazy power when they spool up. I have ridden in a 5psi sts lately in ls1 and one in an lt1 and both times at only 5psi it was still a rush. I am sure twins at 5 or 7 psi on bone stock engine will still also be a rush. I am also used to plus 500 hp in my 97 talon.
Well its good to see things progressing and getting close to delivery dates hopefully.
Excitement is building for sure.
